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    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.

    He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.

    Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.

    I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.

    Mataele has been struggling with injuries right from the start of the season, so he hasn't really had regular game time. It's no surprise that he hasn't impressed much. "Awful" is an exaggeration IMO.

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    @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

    Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

    Yeah that was my thinking.

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    Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

    The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
    
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    @kiwimurph yeah I guess they'll await injuries etc in the NPC finals before confirming

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    All answered here:

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    Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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    @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

    Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

    18 players and a halfback

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    Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

    Hookers
    Dane Coles
    Nathan Harris
    Codie Taylor

    Props
    Owen Franks
    Joe Moody
    Tim Perry
    Karl Tu'inukuafe
    Ofa Tuungafasi

    Locks
    Scott Barrett
    Brodie Retallick
    Samuel Whitelock

    Loose Forwards
    Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
    Shannon Frizell
    Jackson Hemopo
    Kieran Read
    Ardie Savea
    Liam Squire
    Luke Whitelock

    Halfbacks
    TJ Perenara
    Aaron Smith
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

    First five-eighths
    Beauden Barrett
    Damian McKenzie
    Richie Mo'unga

    Midfielders
    Ryan Crotty
    Jack Goodhue
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Sonny Bill Williams

    Outside backs
    Jordie Barrett
    Rieko Ioane
    Nehe Milner-Skudder
    Waisake Naholo
    Ben Smith

    So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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    @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

    Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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    @bovidae That will be pretty close.

    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bovidae That will be pretty close.

    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

    NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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    @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

    So they give their players plenty of rope.

    But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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    Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

    The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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    @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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    Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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    @bovidae

    Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

    I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

    I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

    Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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    @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bovidae

    Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

    I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

    I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

    Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

    I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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    @nepia

    But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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    @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @nepia

    But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

    Um, so. πŸ˜‰

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