Pumas vs All Blacks
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@nevorian said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
Does anyone know what the total no.of tests combined was for that forward pack once Sam Whitelock was subbed?
The AB pack that ended the game:
Tim Perry (3)
Nathan Harris (16)
Angus Ta'avao (debut)
Patrick Tuipulotu (17)
Scott Barrett (23)
Jackson Hemopo (1)
Sam Cane (58)
Ardie Savea (29) -
@bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
@nevorian said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
Does anyone know what the total no.of tests combined was for that forward pack once Sam Whitelock was subbed?
The AB pack that ended the game:
Tim Perry (3)
Nathan Harris (16)
Angus Ta'avao (debut)
Patrick Tuipulotu (17)
Scott Barrett (23)
Jackson Hemopo (1)
Sam Cane (58)
Ardie Savea (29)How many of those were in the starting line-up? Very few I'd imagine.
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@siam said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
Peyper is a pussy too. He'd yellow card that knock down every day of the week
Excuse the pavlovian reaction but can you please refrain from using the term "knock down"? Knocking the ball down is not illegal. "Knock forward" or "knock on" please.
The terminology is important because we wind up with idiots who get upset about perfectly legal plays.
Thank you and apologies.
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@mariner4life said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
Best midfielder in the country gets our bonus point back
How did he manage that? He was doing radio commentary with Nigel Yalden.
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booboo said:
@siam said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
Peyper is a pussy too. He'd yellow card that knock down every day of the week
Excuse the pavlovian reaction but can you please refrain from using the term "knock down"? Knocking the ball down is not illegal. "Knock forward" or "knock on" please.
The terminology is important because we wind up with idiots who get upset about perfectly legal plays.
Thank you and apologies.
Nah.
Anyone that doesn't know the difference can stay the fuck out of the conversation.Every rugby person knows what's legal or not off the hand
Don't change words or make pedantic language rules for dumb people, it's up to the dumb to change, not the other way round.
Argie knocked the ball on, forward AND down illegally, should have been a yellow card
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@siam said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
booboo said:
@siam said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
Peyper is a pussy too. He'd yellow card that knock down every day of the week
Excuse the pavlovian reaction but can you please refrain from using the term "knock down"? Knocking the ball down is not illegal. "Knock forward" or "knock on" please.
The terminology is important because we wind up with idiots who get upset about perfectly legal plays.
Thank you and apologies.
Nah.
Anyone that doesn't know the difference can stay the fuck out of the conversation.Every rugby person knows what's legal or not off the hand
Don't change words or make pedantic language rules for dumb people, it's up to the dumb to change, not the other way round.
Was about to start my reply with "But Justin Marshall ... "
So ... umm ...
Anyway whilst I like your point and want it to be true unfortunately it's not.
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How strong have our propping stocks got? Big Karl is making every post a winner. Ofa is going from strength to strength. Laulala/Hames are to come back. You can't get better than Franks and Moody. Today, Ta'avao looked like he had been there for years. Perry has looked the goods every time he has come on. The scrum is becoming a huge weapon!
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@samurai-jack We still have Moli to come back as well. Will be interesting to see how Fidow and Lomax develop over the next couple of years, both look to have a heap of potential.
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@samurai-jack said in Pumas vs All Blacks:
How strong have our propping stocks got? Big Karl is making every post a winner. Ofa is going from strength to strength. Laulala/Hames are to come back. You can't get better than Franks and Moody. Today, Ta'avao looked like he had been there for years. Perry has looked the goods every time he has come on. The scrum is becoming a huge weapon!
The only problem I have is pronouncing/spelling the names....It was easier when they were called Dowd, Brown and Loe.
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Have to say, fair dues Ardie, you had a cracker and I didn't know you had it in you. Although I'll just temper that a little by saying last year when unpopular loose forwards smashed up Argentina there were many of us saying it's only Argie (including me).
I had no problem with the Cubelli try, all he's done is change the position of his hand. However I've just noticed the massive obstruction on Perenara which seems to have been ignored? I highly doubt it's a try without the obstruction.
Missed seeing Goodhue. SBW played well, that offload was a beauty...but...Goodhue would have straightened that attack up early doors when it kept drifting and would have just popped a nice normal pass.
And wasn't Raynal the ref when we lost to Ireland? It is weird how these French ref's incompetency so often resembles bias...
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was that one of the best ever performances in Black by Ardie?
Certainly put his hand up as a genuine back up to Read with that performance, and then there is the fact he was used more in the lineout too, we've known on here for ages he had the required height!
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@taniwharugby easily his best. I'll stop black knighting him now.
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@kiwipie thought he started off OK, but then he goes on to look for any reason to ignore Argie offending, whilst looking for any reason to card NZ. How on earth there was no Argie carded is beyond me. He warned NZ after like one offence! Then Argies don't even get penalised for intentional knock ons and are allowed to infringe at the dreakdown on their own line, preventing a try. As I'm saying, when the incompetency is on display like that, it really looks like bias...
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I think Ardie showed he has some bloody decent power to weight given he'd be about 100kg dripping wet. Really good leg drive from @Canes4life favourite player.
If you could combine all his good qualities with those of Cane I think he'd be the best loose forward who ever lived.
