All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
they're the new france. big forwards, small backs playing a high skill, high risk game. when it comes off, it's bloody hard to stop and great to watch, good luck to them. they'l be disappointed with the scrum, but i think they were missing a prop? would also like to see Isa back - has he been injured or something? as long as they keep the filth to a minimum they are one of the best teams to watch i reckon.
Isa moved to France.
I'm not 100% up to date with current Argentinian selection policies on overseas based players. But at the time he moved, it made him no longer available.
I think they'll all be availabloe for 2019 RWC though.
Big players potentially to come back:
- Isa
- Imhoff
- Figallo
There's also Cordero in England (but he's probably already been usurped). Plus some more props.
Isa the best of them, but Figallo probably the most important based on their current props.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
I think this incident is growing it's own set of 'alternate facts'. NMS made contact with the ball carrier first, he didn't arrive after a tackle was already being made. In fact if it wasn't for a desperate no look pass out of contact that worked it would have been a great piece of defence as they would have affected a two on one situation with either a spilt ball or a turnover chance The margin was miniscule and worth the risk of the pass being made as he had a sweeper already in place and more coming with plenty of time to come across.
WTF are you talking about Willis? NMS left his man and attempted a tackle on an attacker who was covered. In doing so he left his man unmarked and with space. It wasn't a lucky pass either, it was quick hands, much like what All Blacks do. The change in strip doesn't make one lucky and another skilful.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
IMO there was a higher chance of the pass being disrupted and a turnover created than an overlap being used.
We have your opinion and what actually happened.
Argies pushed the pass and it worked out for them.
There is a big assumption from those criticising NMS' decision that he would have been able to tackle the opposite winger who would have taken the ball at speed and, as he showed, is evasive and strong. He made two other ABs look like complete numpties on his way to the line. It could have been three.It could have been 15. Holy fuck, these Argentinian wingers are unstoppable!
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@crucial Could not disagree more. That was an awful piece of defending by NMS that a schoolboy coach would be livid with. The inside player was covered. You don't rush up and double team the ball carrier - that is some weird winger defending that you see in league a lot. You stay out on your man and use the sideline as your friend in defending and trust your inside defense (when it was 2 on 2 as it was). You don't create an overlap by coming in to tackle a guy that already has a defender on him.
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It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
Player Pool – Argentina - Americas Rugby News
ARGENTINA Includes all players included in senior training squads and overseas professionals. Players may be removed from the pool after two years of international inactivity. Last updated October 28, 2024. NAME POS HGT WGT DOB CAPS DEBUT CLUB #1 LOOSEHEAD PROP Calles, Ignacio LH/HK 1.85 6-1 116...
I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
ARGENTINA Includes all players included in senior training squads and overseas professionals. Players may be removed from the pool after two years of international inactivity. Last updated October 28, 2024. NAME POS HGT WGT DOB CAPS DEBUT CLUB #1 LOOSEHEAD PROP Calles, Ignacio LH/HK 1.85 6-1 116...
I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
@rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
Figallo is their best TH, then Herrera. Both world class. Massive gap to next ones (who specialise at getting airbourne against ABs!).
At LH, Roncero was superb, then Ayerza also first rate before retiring a couple of years ago. Since then, nothing. Don't know Paz.
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Argies being plundered for its props: https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/12/20/another-prop-departs-argentina-gigena-joins-leicester/
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finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?
Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.
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@siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?
Sometimes YouTube provides
Do you have any experience downloading linux distros?
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@bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Planet
CrucialRugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.I saw another site had NMS in thier team too, might have been espn rugby?
Surely we arent just being overly picky?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?
Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.
Remember last year when he got that intercept that 99% of test wingers would have easily turned into a try at the other end? It was embarrassing how easily he was mown down.
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@antipodean thanks mate, but a big whoosh right over my head. Brain could only come up with "that friend of Charlie Brown?" 😁
All good, as ever the thread commentary has painted a satisfactory picture
