Super Rugby Final 2018
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@cyclops said in Super Rugby Final 2018:
Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.
Would be pretty conservative of Shag not to give Richie a fair bit of time in the Rugby Championship. Not necessarily in the first Bled, but he's really played the house down and clearly ready to take the chance - should get at least one start in TRC and several goes from the bench. Pretty clear MoM in this game.
Pretty unusual game. Lions with huge domination of territory and possession, but rarely looked like scoring. Crusaders with brutal defence and very efficient in converting their limited chances.
Credit to the Lions for denying the Crusaders opportunities but, to be honest, it never felt like they were likely to win. Their lineout maul that was expected to be a big weapon was just smashed. Defence was pretty much awesome aside from Todd's miss.
Well done, Razor.
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@chris-b said in Super Rugby Final 2018:
@cyclops said in Super Rugby Final 2018:
Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.
Would be pretty conservative of Shag not to give Richie a fair bit of time in the Rugby Championship. Not necessarily in the first Bled, but he's really played the house down and clearly ready to take the chance - should get at least one start in TRC and several goes from the bench. Pretty clear MoM in this game.
Pretty unusual game. Lions with huge domination of territory and possession, but rarely looked like scoring. Crusaders with brutal defence and very efficient in converting their limited chances.
Credit to the Lions for denying the Crusaders opportunities but, to be honest, it never felt like they were likely to win. Their lineout maul that was expected to be a big weapon was just smashed. Defence was pretty much awesome aside from Todd's miss.
Well done, Razor.
Barring injury I figure Barrett and Dmc get all the starts. Mounga will get a decent amount of time off the bench but it won't be until the eoyt that he gets a chance to start. He might get a start vs Argentina, but looking at shag's track record and comments about the rolls royce pack I don't think he's in a hurry to get Mounga into the starting xv.
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@cyclops I reckon Richie is a good chance to get the start vs Argentina in Nelson - and then they'll go from there - if he does well he probably gets another.
EOYT - barring injury Beauden should get the starts vs England and Ireland - which leaves Japan and Italy, which isn't much of a test for Richie.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:
Mounga
Daylight
Every other 10 in NZ.
Must start first test
So true, I’m out celebrating but glad I checked the fern to read this.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby Final 2018:
Yalden's a journalist isn't he? Yet he appears to be unaware that for years NZ sides routinely lose the possession and territory stats when playing other nations.
Our good teams don't waste time on attack, so if we get the ball in space it is either a score quickly, or nothing. The champion Chiefs side of a few years back attacked largely from long-distance, and so barely spent any time in the opposition 22 the whole season. This Crusader side isn't quite that cut-throat, but they still attack instantly the moment a hole appears, rather than trying to work slowly up field. And they know the advantage of surprise (e.g. quick lineout).
On defence we tend to be patient. This Crusader side, particularly so.
So the possession statistic in particular is useless as a guide to how well a NZ team is going. Indeed if playing a Tier 1 nation and the ABs have the possession in their favour, then they're struggling, because it means the attack isn't working.
Territory isn't much use if the opposition doesn't give away penalties, or if you don't shoot for goal when you do get them.
You'd expect a professional to have spotted that by now, rather than be astounded by it.
Next month he'll be surprised when he sees a rugby team scores more points into a wind.
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@fcc said in Super Rugby Final 2018:
@sammyc how good was Bedwell-Curtis, underrated and stood up all year. Just a trademark of razor’s coaching, a young bloke given a shot and stands up.
Bloody good, so nice to see a guy like him earn a contract through hard work and toughness. I have my doubts he’d be given the same opportunity at other teams. Probably wouldn’t pass the bench press test or something.
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@machpants yep they were banging on about Kwagga and Marx all week, they nullified both, Marx still muscled up and showed his power but Kwagga may as well have not been there.
Not the first time there have been games where the opposition 7 was so good he was hyped up before the game only to be played out of the game.
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@taniwharugby there was a moment right at the start where Todd absolutely ragdolled Smith. Kinda set the tone for the rest of the night.
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At the game the best moments included nullifying the lineout drive/maul. The crowd gave them heaps every time.
From Stuff: “"We tried the peel around the front, we tried one towards the back, we went straight, pretty much did everything that we could and they were just very good. There is nothing else you can say," a deflated Whiteley said.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby Final 2018:
@machpants yep they were banging on about Kwagga and Marx all week, they nullified both, Marx still muscled up and showed his power but Kwagga may as well have not been there.
Not the first time there have been games where the opposition 7 was so good he was hyped up before the game only to be played out of the game.
Not sure what the final stats were, but at one point the turnover count was 9-0 in favour of the crusaders. Thought that was pretty incredible given Marx's ability over the ball was meant to be a strength.
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