Hurricanes 2019 Discussion
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It sounds like Coles and Evans will be on the plane to South Africa but might not be quite ready for the Jaguares this week.
Will three games be enough for them to ready themselves for playoff football? Who knows, it will be a big boost having them back in our pack though.
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@Canes4life 3 games will be enough for Coles IMO, he's that experienced. But Evans? I don't know
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I will be interested to see whether or not Plumtree decides to keep some of his big guns in NZ when the rest of the squad heads to S.A. - assuming they get maximum points against the Jaguares this Friday and whether that is enough to seal 4th position. It will also mean we obviously concede any chance of chasing the Crusaders, unless our backups produce stunners against the Lions & Sharks. The positive is we don't risk injuries to the likes of TJ, Beaudy, Jordie, Laumape, Fifita, Walker-Leawere, Aumua, Proctor & Ardie and it will give them three weeks to freshen up before the Blues game. This could also have the opposite affect and these guys could become rusty with lack of game minutes.
This will also allow guys like Bedwell-Curtis, Umaga-Jensen, Rayasi, Cridge etc the chance to put their hand up for consistent selection.
Barring injuries, I would like to see this 23 get a run in S.A:- Smith 2. Coles 3. Fidow 4. Cridge 5. Leaupepe 6. Bedwell-Curtis 7. Kirifi 8. Evans 9. Judd 10. Smith 11. Rayasi 12. Umaga-Jensen 13. B Proctor 14. Goosen 15. Marshall
Reserves: 16. Riccitelli 17. Armstrong 18. Toomaga-Allen 19. Mitchell 20. Blackwell 21. Henwood 22. Christie 23. Lam
- Smith 2. Coles 3. Fidow 4. Cridge 5. Leaupepe 6. Bedwell-Curtis 7. Kirifi 8. Evans 9. Judd 10. Smith 11. Rayasi 12. Umaga-Jensen 13. B Proctor 14. Goosen 15. Marshall
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@Canes4life Forget Billy Proctor. He's in the NZU20 squad & I doubt he'll play for the Canes before the JWC.
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@Stargazer fixed 13. Goosen 14. Lam 23. Toala.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@Stargazer fixed 13. Goosen 14. Lam 23. Toala.
Just shows you that one selector/coach (or internet pundit!) player can have a much higher appreciation of a player than the NZ Under 20s selector.
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@Canes4life From A WC perspective we need Savea,Both Barretts and TJ fit and refreshed.So maybe a good idea to rest them The Crusaders have Rested their AB's on a regular basis.We are potentially 3 or 4 injuries away from WC Trouble.
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Some injury updates:
- Fidow isn't playing atm due to fitness related issues from his shoulder injury.
- Ben May had minor surgery on his knee but should be okay for the playoffs.
- Fraser Armstrong has a minor back complaint.
- Coles is still having trouble with the calf, so much so the Canes made him get a scan on his back.
- Chase Tiatia has a hamstring injury.
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HURRICANES CONFIRM ANOTHER FOUR PLAYERS FOR 2020 ROSTER
Four more players have confirmed their future is with the Hurricanes. Experienced loose forward Reed Prinsep has extended his contract through until at least 2021. The 26-year-old, who has captained the Hurricanes in 2019, has made 39 appearances for the Hurricanes since he made his debut against the Sunwolves in 2017. Powerful lock Kane Le'aupepe has also agreed terms with the club and also signed on until at least 2021. Having been called into the Hurricanes squad this year as injury cover, the 2.01m, 124kg middle rower has impressed the coaching team with his work ethic and character. The 26-year-old, who plays international rugby for Manu Samoa, made his debut for the Hurricanes against the Crusaders and has since made five appearances. The pair are joined by first five-eighth Jackson Garden-Bachop and outside back Jonah Lowe who have signed until at least the end of the 2020 Investec Super Rugby season. Garden-Bachop, 24, has made six appearances for the Hurricanes since his debut against the Jaguares last year. Lowe, 23, has been sidelined with injury for most of the 2019 campaign after a solid pre-season. He made his debut for the Hurricanes last season against the Crusaders in Christchurch. Hurricanes head coach John Plumtree believed the quartet provided further continuity for the club heading into next season. "Reed has grown each year with the Hurricanes and is establishing himself as a significant contributor on the field with his loose forward play and his leadership qualities. He continues to be a great example to others," he said. "Kane has been a really good for the Hurricanes since arriving as injury cover. We are delighted he is keen to continue his development in our environment. He's also got real size and athletic ability." Hurricanes general manager of rugby Ben Castle also expected Garden-Bachop and Lowe to play significant roles in the the future. "They are two young players who haven’t had many opportunities to date but will continue to push hard for starting spots," he said. "They have been Hurricanes for two years now and it is great they will be continuing with us."
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
Hurricanes general manager of rugby Ben Castle also expected Garden-Bachop and Lowe to play significant roles in the the future.
"They are two young players who haven’t had many opportunities to date but will continue to push hard for starting spots," he said.
"They have been Hurricanes for two years now and it is great they will be continuing with us."
Uhm, this is Lowe's third year.
I'm surprised he wants to stay.
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LOL, and now Lowe's profile is back on the squad list. https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/squad/current-squad/
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And they've re-signed JG-B. I'm wondering whether they're going to re-sign James Marshall and Fletcher Smith, too.
And do they already know what BB is going to do and has that influenced their decision to re-sign JG-B or decisions regarding Marshall and Smith?
I also wonder whether McClutchie is in the mix somehow; or will be, if he has a good M10 Cup season?
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@Chris From a player development perspective, it would be great if the Crusaders sign McClutchie. He's like a younger, inexperienced version of Mo'unga at the moment with a lot of potential that just needs to be developed. He'd be able to learn so much from RM, probably more than from BB, who's an entirely different player - both in style and physique and who may not even be there (next year).
From a Magpies supporter perspective, I don't really care where he goes, as long as he gets plenty of opportunity to become the best player he can be - and that includes game time (and the Canes aren't usually very good at giving all their prospects game time). That will then benefit the Bay as well.
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@Stargazer May not need to let anyone go considering Beauden will most likely have a year off. McClutchie will just come in for him I would say.
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@Canes4life Yeah, possibly, but I prefer longer term thinking and what's best for the development of McClutchie as a player. He can't learn anything from BB if BB isn't there.
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@Stargazer doesn't matter, we have the King in our coaching lineup.