All Blacks v France Test 3
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@cgrant said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@gunner said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
Goodhue will be the long term centre, Ioane can therefore keep being the worlds best winger for a few more years.
There is no outstanding centre in NZ ... currently. Goodhue has nowyet to play a test match at this level. I think Ioane has the necessary dimension to become what the AB are looking for. The left wing spot won't be a problem since there are incredibly promising young guns coming (Caleb Clarke, Leicester Faingaanuku). So it is urgent to test Ioane there as the French team is not a great threat and the RWC is coming next year.
The Charlie Ngatai of 2018
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@junior said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@bones I don't think Ioane playing at centre in the long-term should be dismissed. Inevitably, he will hit an age where he is no longer able to keep it up on the wing (as all our wingers inevitably do), but he could have an Umaga-like career path where he gradually transitions to the midfield. He certainly has the body-shape and ball-skills to do it. I agree that this week might be too soon for that though.
I didn't dismiss Ioane playing at centre in the long-term.
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@shark said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
But midfield is messy as is 8.
Not helped by injuries and, to a certain extent, not allowing combinations to develop. The 1st choice midfield should be pretty settled by now but you sense Hansen & co. are still doing too much tinkering.
We just need a solid, if unspectacular, 12/13 combination and I just don't see that at all.
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
But midfield is messy as is 8.
Not helped by injuries and, to a certain extent, not allowing combinations to develop. The 1st choice midfield should be pretty settled by now but you sense Hansen & co. are still doing too much tinkering.
We just need a solid, if unspectacular, 12/13 combination and I just don't see that at all.
ALB & SBW doesn't fit this bill?
Goodhue is just a Canterbury pick if you ask me.
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The fact that ALB & SBW aren't a settled pair kinda proves my point.
A year and a bit out from RWC2019 and it's 2 out of ALB/SBW/Crotty - sometimes in different positions.
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@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
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@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
The fact that ALB & SBW aren't a settled pair kinda proves my point.
A year and a bit out from RWC2019 and it's 2 out of ALB/SBW/Crotty - sometimes in different positions.
I'm beginning to wonder if that is such a bad thing.
Although we were lucky to have Nonu/Smith, the times they couldn't play together caused no end of headaches at times (eg Ben Smith filling in)
There aren't many teams around that don't get issues around injuries in the centres these days and hoping for a pair that are available more often than not may be wishful thinking.
Having the available combos with Crotty moving between the two jerseys is great. -
@bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
They are missing this
swb
meaning 'Safe White Boy' is an adjective pronounced (swub). This is a rugby player, usually a back and playing for a Canterbury based team. They are notably boring and are selected instead of more mercurial brown players.
eg
Did you see who is selected on the wing?
Oh yea. another swb! He's unlikely to cause problemsDo not confuse with SBW
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@crucial said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
Do not confuse with SBW
...or BFA for that matter.
Correct. Not all WBs are SWBs
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Benjamin, Waisake, Jack, Sonny Bill, Rieko, Damian, Aaron
Luke, Ardie, Shannon, Scott, Samuel, Owen, Codie, JosephKarl, Liam, Ofa, Jackson, Matthew, TJ, Richard, Jordan.
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http://www.allblacks.com/News/32593/all-blacks-team-named-for-third-test
The matchday 23 is as follows (with Test caps in brackets. New Test All Blacks are in bold):-
Joe Moody (33)
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Codie Taylor (31)
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Owen Franks (97)
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Samuel Whitelock (98) - captain
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Scott Barrett (18)
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Shannon Frizell
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Ardie Savea (24)
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Luke Whitelock (4)
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Aaron Smith (73)
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Damian McKenzie (14)
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Rieko Ioane (15)
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Sonny Bill Williams (46)
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Jack Goodhue
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Waisake Naholo (18)
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Ben Smith (65)
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Liam Coltman (1)
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Karl Tu'inukuafe (2)
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Ofa Tuungafasi (16)
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Jackson Hemopo
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Matt Todd (13)
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TJ Perenara (44)
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Richie Mo'unga
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Jordie Barrett (4)
excited about that midfield.
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Yeah, well, living in deepest rural Cornwall, my need for an urban dictionary is about as likely as an England support treasuring a Mike Brown autograph.
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I'm excited by the team in that it seems crazy, look at the loose forward trio! Seeing SBW start doesn't seem weird until you realise it's his first game back from injury, and last time he was so quickly upto speed, yeah right. Then he paired with a debutante! Frizzle had played Almost no top class minutes, hemopo only a little more. Impact DMac and Ardie start for steady Todd and mo'unga.
I hope they play well cos I'm owed after blowing 140 on a ticket last weekend!
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That’s a loose forward trio you should only see play in a midweek game back in the 90’s.
Urban Dictionary: SWB
