Crusaders vs Waratahs
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@nepia said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Aussie panel is having go at refs panel ... but, should always be neutral ref at least even.
Straight off the bat Fox' people were into the referee and the blogsters are hyperventilating just the same at The Roar. It's a feature when we play and lose elsewhere, not a fault.
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@mick-gold-coast-qld said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@nepia said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
This is weird for two reasons, 1. I think I'm watching netball because of the female commentator and 2. I actually want the Crusaders to win. I feel dirty.
It put me off right from the jump - it is a game played by blokes and blokes who are part of the game instinctively know what is happening and offer better, more interesting commentary as a consequence.
Nice that we are back to the fifties. Rugby’s not just a game for guys, hasn’t been for years.
I thought she was ok.
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@gt12 said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@mick-gold-coast-qld said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@nepia said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
This is weird for two reasons, 1. I think I'm watching netball because of the female commentator and 2. I actually want the Crusaders to win. I feel dirty.
It put me off right from the jump - it is a game played by blokes and blokes who are part of the game instinctively know what is happening and offer better, more interesting commentary as a consequence.
Nice that we are back to the fifties. Rugby’s not just a game for guys, hasn’t been for years.
I thought she was ok.
Yeah, I thought she was ok, just reminded me of netball.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@damo said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Swannell is a very good commentator.
First I've heard of her. I already like her more than TJ
Mouunga almost fucked the Cantabs good and hard there. Spends opening 30 minutes sending delightful little pitch kicks directly to Folau only to see the whole lot run right the fuck back past him for 5 pointers.
Then 2nd half he has a few glory hunter snipes with a veritable bukkake queue of Cantabs waiting outside him ready to stroll into the pleasure zone.
Then 79th minute instead of grinding out the clock he lofts back another tinpot kick for old times sake to give NSWF one more free burl
a bit harsh on RM.. In 4 of the tries (not incl. PT), he was the one who gave the assist in 3 of them..
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A very, very strange game.
Swannell - somehow the ambience is wrong for me. After 50 years of listening to male commentators it just sounds wrong. Hopefully will get better with more listening - a bit like Sumo!
Crusaders got out of jail a bit in that game.
Rocky is right - Richie had one of his worst games - in fact he, Hall and Bateman (the inside backs) were the principal architects of the 29 point deficit. I'm far from convinced Razor has things right in choosing Bateman/Goodhue over Goodhue/Tamanivalu in the midfield. Hopefully, he won't have to make that choice again.
Mark Reason can dwell on his two play-makers theory from earlier today, as well.
Good to come back, but I think the ref. helped to dictate the flow of the game. I thought the tahs got some friendly calls in the first 25 minutes, but things got evened up later.
Overall, to beat the tahs you need to keep the ball out of the hands of Folau and Beale. We got ourselves in the shit by not doing this. On the other hand, Foley doesn't seem to be quite the player he was a couple of years ago.
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Nick McArdle on Fox Sports is going off at the referee and I can't say I blame him. Moody should have received a yellow or possibly a red for an elbow on Beale in the lead up to the Crusaders' first try and that last tip tackle should have been a penalty to the Tahs. Crusaders were lucky.
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@akan004 said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Nick McArdle on Fox Sports is going off at the referee and I can't say I blame him. Moody should have received a yellow or possibly a red for an elbow on Beale in the lead up to the Crusaders' first try and that last tip tackle should have been a penalty to the Tahs. Crusaders were
It's been s while since some still shots of NZ rugby players being dirty went viral.
We are Defo due
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Foley is a shadow of his former self. Who else is in the frame at 10 for the Wallabies? I can't even think of anyone.
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@no-quarter Leiliafano would maybe be the only other option?
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@gt12 said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@mick-gold-coast-qld said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@nepia said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
This is weird for two reasons, 1. I think I'm watching netball because of the female commentator and 2. I actually want the Crusaders to win. I feel dirty.
It put me off right from the jump - it is a game played by blokes and blokes who are part of the game instinctively know what is happening and offer better, more interesting commentary as a consequence.
Nice that we are back to the fifties. Rugby’s not just a game for guys, hasn’t been for years.
I thought she was ok.
Oh? Is this more to your liking?
It put me off right from the jump -
it is a game played by blokes and blokes who are part of the game instinctively know what is happening and offer better, more interesting commentary as a consequence.because I'm old.Look gt12, thanks for taking the time to mark my work and pigeonhole it, based on some well camouflaged subjective criteria.
I take it you've not seen me comment here previously about how much I enjoy Melodie Robinson's support commentary and analyses in the ITM Cup broadcasts because
I am oldI am impressed by her knowledge and manner of presentation. Or was it the Rothmans Filter Cup? ... so long ago ... -
@kiwimurph said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@chris-b said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Rikki Swannell isn't doing a bad job of calling the match, but somehow it just doesn't sound right. Should have given her the Blues and us TJ.
Deal!
She thought she was watching Blues - calling Cam Clark, Caleb Clarke
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It's funny to hear that the Aussies are complaining about the ref. O'Keefe & co. didn't do the Crusaders many favours. Offside wasn't reffed (and the Tahs seemed to be offside all the time), that high tackle on Bateman should have been a card, and how many penalties did it eventually take to get to the PT? Even if some were soft, it took way too long.
Shit first 25 minutes from the Saders. Crusaders looked shell-shocked and didn't adapt soon enough. I think that's all due to Crotty not being there, and possibly Dagg. Leadership from the older, more experienced heads was missing and Bateman just isn't the player to provide it. Something the Crusaders need to look at when they're recruiting for the next seasons.
But once they came back, they came back with a vengeance. Massive shift from guys like Whitelock, Taufua and Goodhue. Mo'unga wasn't that bad at all IMO. His kicking game was a bit off (looked like something from the game plan that didn't work, maybe relying too much on their defence and/or under-estimating Folau), but apart from that he did a great job. It was the handling errors of other players that let them down in the first 25 minutes; his game management was good and he made several try assists.
The coaches clearly have work to do after today. What went wrong during those 25 minutes? The moves weren't new and like the ones they make in every game, but they kept on dropping the ball; passes were absolutely terrible. Back to basics? Hope they don't have more injuries. Taufua seemed to struggle with his knee; Bateman with his neck after that high tackle; Mataele's head knock.
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I think the saders coming back from 0-29 says more about the Waratahs than them, as you kinda expected once the saders got stemmed the flow they were always gonna be a shot to overhaul them, which in the end they actually made hard work of.
BUt for the tahs it just shows the hole Aussie rugby is in right now, lack of self belief in everything they are doing.
Sure they kept going to the end, but they still never really looked like taking bar maybe a lucky penalty.
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@no-quarter Really? The Tahs on 2 occasions did the same thing and the referee played on. Nobody was aggrieved then
