Blues v Hurricanes
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Considering last game he topped the canes tackle count and was third last night, I think you're wrong. It maybe he's been told to do a Pocock, be ready for the steal. And his steal last night was a thing of laser accurate lightning fast beauty. I think Ardie had been improving this season, getting back to his ABs call up form. If still pick Todd tho, unless we were playing a much less physical nation than France
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@machpants yeah I'm sure the stats can tell me I'm wrong. Just whenever I watch him he seems to be doing sfa.
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@bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@machpants yeah I'm sure the stats can tell me I'm wrong. Just whenever I watch him he seems to be doing sfa.
They call that Thorne or Suitcase syndrome
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@bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:
I know I'm a broken record, but geez Ardie is the supreme avoider. Goes from breakdown to breakdown and positions himself perfectly to not have to defend 9 times outta 10.
Just watch the play around the 48th minute. One tackle, always there.
I'm disappointed that Ardi hasn't really fulfilled his potential but he had an excellent game last night. If you're going to criticise him for that performance then, short of him offering you felatio, you're never going to be pleased with anything he does.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:
I know I'm a broken record, but geez Ardie is the supreme avoider. Goes from breakdown to breakdown and positions himself perfectly to not have to defend 9 times outta 10.
Just watch the play around the 48th minute. One tackle, always there.
I'm disappointed that Ardi hasn't really fulfilled his potential but he had an excellent game last night. If you're going to criticise him for that performance then, short of him offering you felatio, you're never going to be pleased with anything he does.
I thought Ardie may fall short, but he rose to the heights last night. High level of effort from him, despite some hairy moments. He had a good platform to stand on of course, with his tight five measuring up.
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I think we will get a better gauge of where Ardie Savea is when he comes against the Saders in Christchurch.He will meet a team that won’t have a wobbly scrum,an ineffective lineout,that doesn’t know how to defend lineout drive and has questionable leadership.
And more importantly he will come up against a specialist number 7 who the All Black selectors see as a better fit -
@bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:
I know I'm a broken record, but geez Ardie is the supreme avoider. Goes from breakdown to breakdown and positions himself perfectly to not have to defend 9 times outta 10.
Just watch the play around the 48th minute. One tackle, always there.
Todd averages 11.8 tackles per minutes this season, Ardie averages 10. So there is a difference there but it isn't huge.
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@crucial said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Without messing up the systems too much, surely we stick with Squire/Kaino, Cane and an 8 that can work in close as well as take opportunities in the tram tracks.
Jerome's surely gone isn't he?
He's leaving NZ after Super rugby, 35 years old, and based on what I saw last night he's going through the motions.
For the first test I reckon they'll pick Luke Whitelock to play 8 and he'll be paired with one of Squire, Fifita or Akira - probably in that order of likelihood, though Squire needs to get back on the paddock and show some form. Time is running short for him.
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@pakman SBW”s offload was pure genius,was not just thrown anywhere,he’s actually dropped it into space knowing Ledger would be there.
I also thought while Caleb Clark did not see a lot of ball,I thought he kept Julian Savea in check -
@mariner4life said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@stargazer said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kirwan Evans has been brilliant all season, and clearly much better in this game than Akira. Akira is just a big lump who's going hot and cold, but mostly cold in this game.
This is retarded. Dude you have some weird blinkers. Akira is such a stand out in nearly everything good that happens in a Blues game. Tonight i watched him repeatedly get over the advantage line, repeatedly hold opposition up on defense ( including this nobody Evans) and whack dudes at ruck time.
I did see him drop a lineout, which is a caning offense in the school of mariner, but...
Akira has that bit extra you need in the test arena, backed up by a pretty decent workrate. Surely he's a lock?
Evans plays for Hawkes Bay. Post was made by Stargazer. So yeah, no surprises about his post.
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@chris-b said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Jerome's surely gone isn't he?
He's leaving NZ after Super rugby, 35 years old, and based on what I saw last night he's going through the motions.
Yep, and we have missed out on the last of him on the back of self inflicted damage. Really sad ending to someone who was a monster in black for 4-5 years. One of my favourite players when on song, and has two RWC medals.
Also probably appears in Digby Ioane's dreams still ... but not the happy dreams, the other kind
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@mimic said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@stargazer said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kirwan Evans has been brilliant all season, and clearly much better in this game than Akira. Akira is just a big lump who's going hot and cold, but mostly cold in this game.
This is retarded. Dude you have some weird blinkers. Akira is such a stand out in nearly everything good that happens in a Blues game. Tonight i watched him repeatedly get over the advantage line, repeatedly hold opposition up on defense ( including this nobody Evans) and whack dudes at ruck time.
I did see him drop a lineout, which is a caning offense in the school of mariner, but...
Akira has that bit extra you need in the test arena, backed up by a pretty decent workrate. Surely he's a lock?
Evans plays for Hawkes Bay. Post was made by Stargazer. So yeah, no surprises about his post.
Yeah, because Blues fans are so objective. So no surprises about their posts.
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@kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kirwan you didnt seem concerned Parsons did it?? He was closest and a leader.
He was poor too, wasn’t closest though.
Parsons DEF the closest player to the quick tap, many of the Blues turn thier back, rookie error all round lead ably by Pulu & Parsons.
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@stargazer said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@mimic said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@stargazer said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kirwan Evans has been brilliant all season, and clearly much better in this game than Akira. Akira is just a big lump who's going hot and cold, but mostly cold in this game.
This is retarded. Dude you have some weird blinkers. Akira is such a stand out in nearly everything good that happens in a Blues game. Tonight i watched him repeatedly get over the advantage line, repeatedly hold opposition up on defense ( including this nobody Evans) and whack dudes at ruck time.
I did see him drop a lineout, which is a caning offense in the school of mariner, but...
Akira has that bit extra you need in the test arena, backed up by a pretty decent workrate. Surely he's a lock?
Evans plays for Hawkes Bay. Post was made by Stargazer. So yeah, no surprises about his post.
Yeah, because Blues fans are so objective. So no surprises about their posts.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but a little self awareness goes a long way.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:
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@kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kirwan you didnt seem concerned Parsons did it?? He was closest and a leader.
He was poor too, wasn’t closest though.
Parsons DEF the closest player to the quick tap, many of the Blues turn thier back, rookie error all round lead ably by Pulu & Parsons.
I see 5 players turn their backs. Harsh to single out one.
At least Wright is running back.
For some reason I'm a fan of Wright but that was poor by him. And Parsons, and Taramai, and Pulu, and Cowley-Tuioti.
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@hydro11 said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:
I know I'm a broken record, but geez Ardie is the supreme avoider. Goes from breakdown to breakdown and positions himself perfectly to not have to defend 9 times outta 10.
Just watch the play around the 48th minute. One tackle, always there.
Todd averages 11.8 tackles per minutes this season, Ardie averages 10. So there is a difference there but it isn't huge.
AB selectors made the comment a year or two ago that they want a 7 who is stopping props on the advantage line, as opposed to dragging down guys as the skirt past. So numbers alone don't cut it. I haven't watched Ardie much this year, so genuine question - does it seem like he's making more dominant tackles?
