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    @gunner said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Laumape very good.

    Was he? I thought he was okay with a couple of okay runs, but the game did show his limited passing game. Not something we would want at 2nd 5 you would think.

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    @salacious-crumb

    Is it just me or does Squire look smaller without his mullet?
    

    Yes you both look smarter without a mullet.

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    So...

    How good was TKB? I think that's the best I've seen him play, what a game to go out on.

    Fucking annoying and so obvious the use of the replays at the ground to try and force an issue. Ref started off trying to ignore it but gave in pretty quick.

    I can live with the Goodhue yellow, sure you could say it was accidental, but it was a pretty handy accident huh? Goodhue did mess with the player and then conveniently fell on his ankles. High tackles and tackles in the air are often accidental too, doesn't mean you can't card the offender. However, if that's a yellow card then so is the tackle of Havili in the air.

    Thought Moli showed some brutal promise, colour me impressed. Perry also seemed pretty sturdy, have hardly seen him play and after what I've read here you'd think he's lucky to play NPC - didn't look like that. Harris though....up your game bud.

    Bird stepped up nicely too, him and Tuipulotu combined nicely in the aviary second row.

    I'd be happy to see them give up on Savea for now, just doesn't seem up to the international level at this stage, Todd offers more - plus his constant glory-hunting "I'll try and do it myself!" really irks me. Nice comeback from Squire, Whitelock looked comfy.

    All the backs (apart from TKB) showed great promise but had black marks at some stage, just inexperience probably.

    Laumape - intercept.
    Goodhue - card.
    Tamanivalu - oopsie for the first French try.
    Goodhue - dunno I'm sure there's something.
    Duffie - wasn't it him that got bumped off by Chat? He did come back to get him though.

    Speaking of - I thought Havili went really well otherwise.

    Annnddd the commentators....fuck me! Is it too much to ask these eggs to just watch some rugby or do a bit of research if they're going to be handsomely paid for these gigs?

    Goode was good in the first half, then seemed to turn into the guy from last week at halftime. According to him (amongst other pearlers):

    • A year ago it was legal for the tackler to not have to release the tackled player
    • It's a fact that the AB's have a well known weakness at scrumtime, be it the midweek or Test team (after getting shoved back in ONE scrum).
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    @mimic said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    @taniwharugby said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    @stargazer am sure it will be viewed as Kiwis moaning, but it is a bit of an issue, not always, but enough of one that there should be some protocols around it.

    Obviously we benefitted from a big screen replay in the AB-Aus Bledisloe #3 last year (am sure there are others I cant think of) but for the most part I think our coverage is a bit more balanced in just showing the replay of something, then moving on unless the TMO is involved, not replaying to get the TMO involved.

    If Hansen really wants to hammer his point home, he should get the NZ producers to use it to the extreme to force world rugbys hand..

    This.

    If the NZ Sky OB guys started doing it during every test match, replaying every opposition incident for the crowd to boo, you can bet your house on WR getting pressured by the touring management to jump an and make ground replay protocols.
    Look at the uproar after Italy played to the laws and made fools of England. Laws changes kicked up a gear, even though others had used the tactic over the years.

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    I think TKB is leaving when he is possibly at his best , and thats not when you want them to go

    Has a real hardness and maturity about his play now that has come from experience

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    @bones said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Goodhue - card.
    ...
    Goodhue - dunno I'm sure there's something.

    ?

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    @bones said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    So...

    • It's a fact that the AB's have a well known weakness at scrumtime, be it the midweek or Test team (after getting shoved back in ONE scrum).

    that's a perception that I hope is perpetuated.

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    @booboo Duffie. Damn autocorrect?

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    @bones said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Havili - wasn't it him that got bumped off by Chat? He did come back to get him though.

    I have noticed that Havili's defensive reads need a lot of work. In this game, and in the SA test, he does his best impersonation of a traffic cone when faced with a player running at him with a player in support. Commit to either the ball carrier or the support player instead of not laying a hand on either.

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    Thought Goodhue card ok.

    Surprised at some of the reaction on here, I've seen it after reading about it here.

    He was all over him, like a soccer defender at a corner, then tripped.

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    @rapido said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Thought Goodhue card ok.

    Surprised at some of the reaction on here, I've seen it after reading about it here.

    He was all over him, like a soccer defender at a corner, then tripped.

    You're allowed to run in to each other. It's not illegal. The only thing he did wrong was raise an arm to steady himself. You could argue that was maybe penalisable. He didn't take the player out deliberately. Yellow was ridiculous.

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    @booboo oh definitely. I've also conveniently managed to take out attacking players whilst making it look accidental.

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    @bones said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    @booboo oh definitely. I've also conveniently managed to take out attacking players whilst making it look accidental.

    It's a common skill.

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    @bones he's from Northland, so only there as a token gesture...plus, he needed a YC in his AB debut to match the one he got in his NZ U20 debut!

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    @booboo said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    @rapido said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Thought Goodhue card ok.

    Surprised at some of the reaction on here, I've seen it after reading about it here.

    He was all over him, like a soccer defender at a corner, then tripped.

    You're allowed to run in to each other. It's not illegal. The only thing he did wrong was raise an arm to steady himself. You could argue that was maybe penalisable. He didn't take the player out deliberately. Yellow was ridiculous.

    That's what I was expecting to see after reading on here.

    But I saw a guy in an inferior position to a support runner using his arms to get into a better position but falling over while doing it, as he is all over him like a bad rash, and taking out said support runner.

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    @rapido said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    But I saw a guy in an inferior position to a support runner using his arms to get into a better position but falling over while doing it, as he is all over him like a bad rash, and taking out said support runner.

    Players can't put themselves in positions to take out other players, accidental or not.

    Plenty of penalties are given to players trying to roll away from the ball in a ruck, but who didn't take care originally not to fall in a bad position.

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    Richie Mo'unga posted this on instagram:

    For who can't read it:

    Despite breaking my hand in the first minute I got on, and @toddy_m_ bringing out the wrong kicking tee 😂 I wouldn't have it any other way. Can't describe the feeling running out there turning a dream to reality. So blessed to have the support of my partner and family there, as well as many others supporting from home. Awesome way to finish what's been a year I will never forget. #1167 #herewegoboys #UPR #checkedout #mahidone #wheresthetreatsat
    
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    @stargazer said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Richie Mo'unga posted this on instagram:

    For who can't read it:

    Despite breaking my hand in the first minute I got on, and @toddy_m_ bringing out the wrong kicking tee 😂 I wouldn't have it any other way. Can't describe the feeling running out there turning a dream to reality. So blessed to have the support of my partner and family there, as well as many others supporting from home. Awesome way to finish what's been a year I will never forget. #1167 #herewegoboys #UPR #checkedout #mahidone #wheresthetreatsat
    

    Broken hand?

    Was he meant to stay with the squad or come home? Woll be latter regardless it seems.

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    @booboo Bird, Moli, Hunt, Drummond and Mo'unga were all expected to return home after the France XV game from the start. So no change in plans.

    What I find most remarkable is that Mo'unga could play so well with a broken hand for almost half a game, especially that great tackle on that French forward (Macalou?). He showed no hesitation.

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    @stargazer said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    What I find most remarkable is that Mo'unga could play so well with a broken hand for almost half a game, especially that great tackle on that French forward (Macalou?). He showed no hesitation.

    Good Canterbury man, tough as nails

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