Hurricanes 2018
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I suppose we will have to wait for the books to come out to find out what went wrong for Boyd, the only Canes coach to win Super rugby.
I guess Carlos wanted to be part of a winning team..... -
@canefan said in Hurricanes 2018:
I suppose we will have to wait for the books to come out to find out what went wrong for Boyd, the only Canes coach to win Super rugby.
I guess Carlos wanted to be part of a winning team.....Didn't Plumtree come along as Boyd's assistant on a hand shake agreement that would see Boyd step aside so Plumtree could take over?
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well, from the outside, it would appear Plumtree is the more valuable part of the Boyd/Plumtree team....
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@pukunui said in Hurricanes 2018:
That poorly written article is the first i've heard of Boyd being forced out. I thought that was the plan all along?
Is there anything to back the claims in this article up?I seem to recall him having a change of heart
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Haven't heard anything about Boyd wanting to stay, or going on back on that prior agreement with Plumtree. Those two still seem super tight, and if anything Boyd might still be salty with the fishheads at head office. The only real shots he's fired were about lack of contact from Hansen.
Stoked to have Spencer coming home - will be interesting to see what he can bring to the coaching team. Toffee pops for everyone!!
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@pukunui First I'd heard of it as well, but this article from March provides a little bit more backstory, that Boyd wasn't completely happy to go now.
Seems slightly odd that they would shunt Boyd out the door to accommodate Holland - has he been promoted anyway?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12009965
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@chris-b said in Hurricanes 2018:
@pukunui First I'd heard of it as well, but this article from March provides a little bit more backstory, that Boyd wasn't completely happy to go now.
Seems slightly odd that they would shunt Boyd out the door to accommodate Holland - has he been promoted anyway?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12009965
Thanks, that paints quite a different picture than the other shitty article that was looking to stir up controversy. Sounds like Boyd would have preferred to stay a little longer but wanted what was best for the Canes long term so signed offshore to allow them to lock in the long term coaching team.
Also sounds like his problem with the NZRU is as a result of lack of pathways within nz for senior coaches who aren't part of the ABs. -
" lack of pathways within nz for senior coaches who aren't part of the ABs." which is ridiculous, what does Boyd want, shall we invent more teams above SR level? We've anyway got the Maori ABs, so maybe Pakeha ABs or NZ welsh ABs! Or maybe a twenty person coaching panel for the ABs? Imo just a grumble because of timing (as much as anything) he missed out on an ABs position, same as players behind legends and players wanting to play the lions. There are only so many posts in a small country like NZ, but heaps of coaches, thus NZ coaches everywhere around the world
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Is he thinking about high performance/age grade opportunities? or a wider group of apprentice-type coaches?
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@pukunui That seems like a very strange article by Bidwell.
Not sure whether it's one of those weird articles that people like Mark Reason write that take the blackest interpretation of everything to paint a conspiracy that doesn't exist, or whether there's a bit more to the story that we haven't heard.
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@machpants said in Hurricanes 2018:
" lack of pathways within nz for senior coaches who aren't part of the ABs." which is ridiculous, what does Boyd want, shall we invent more teams above SR level? We've anyway got the Maori ABs, so maybe Pakeha ABs or NZ welsh ABs! Or maybe a twenty person coaching panel for the ABs? Imo just a grumble because of timing (as much as anything) he missed out on an ABs position, same as players behind legends and players wanting to play the lions. There are only so many posts in a small country like NZ, but heaps of coaches, thus NZ coaches everywhere around the world
From that second article i think he is referring to mentoring roles for younger coaches. Given the number of ex player coaches we have seen fall short over the past 10 years that sounds like a really good idea. Whether there is the money there to pay for this is another matter.
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@bones said in Hurricanes 2018:
@pukunui thing is, it's Boyd. He's hardly a long in the tooth proven performer at the highest levels. What makes him think if there were mentoring roles, he should be a prime candidate?
Im not suggesting he should be it, just think it might actually be a good idea given there have been a few cases of new coaches getting super rugby jobs before they are ready, a mentor may have helped some of those guys.
