Lions v Hurricanes (SF)
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@Winger whether it's the Saders, Canes, Landers or Chiefs, whoever finishes top of the NZ conference are going to get an advantage come playoff time. If the Saders finished somewhere other than top I would expect the travel and the fate in the hands of other results.
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@Bones Please explain, you lost me.
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@Wreck-Diver see above.
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@Bones Proctor your taking the piss.
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@Wreck-Diver I'll be sure to pass it onto him?
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@Bones please do because he doesn't make the starting 15 and is at best a bench player.
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@Wreck-Diver said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):
@Bones please do because he doesn't make the starting 15 and is at best a bench player.
Hah! Riiiight...what is that based on? The fact that until injured he was the starting centre for the Canes and their best player? Or the fact that they haven't quite been the same team since he got injured?
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@Bones Proctor played a couple of games at the beginning of the season got injured came back got injured against the Lions (BIL that is). He's named as a utility in the squad. Aso came in and has played consistent rugby all season based on his consistency and being joint top try scorer he holds is position ahead of Proctor even he was fit after the Maori game.
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@Wreck-Diver yeah, 7 games is only a couple? Consistently selected ahead of Aso when fit, that's an odd one when according to you, Aso holds his place. That's not what I call holding your place.
He's been the number 13 when fit this year and last.
The stats are pretty telling too. Especially considering he's played less than half as many minutes as Aso ( who has been excellent on the wing, but pretty average at centre, especially when you look at defence, turnovers and breaking tackles).
https://www.alloutrugby.com/stats/?seasonid=32&view=player_vs_player&action=main
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@Bones Stats don't mean shit. You say the Canes wont win back to back because Proctor is injured, bullshit. You even have said you don't trust J Barrett because defence. Well sorry Aso on current form makes the team in my book and is joint top try scorer in the comp as you say playing an average game at centre
Oh and I nearly forgot Proctors got a fuckin top knock and that just rules him out -
@Wreck-Diver I agree and so do the selectors, Aso makes the team. On the wing.
Stats help tell a story. So does consistently getting selected ahead of another player.
No idea what Barrett has to do with it.
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@Wreck-Diver by the way you may want to re-read my post when the mania has passed. That word "may"....
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Proctor was killing it at 13 before he got injured. Definitely first choice 13 (although Jordie seems to be some kind of arsey lucky charm there). He wasn't the best player in the team though. That's taking it too far.
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@Bones said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):
@Darren-Nicholson I think his defence alone would walk him in, that's not even taking into account how good he is at distribution/using space.
Proctor was great for us. Aso did very well in his place but I always felt he looked like a winger playing midfield
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Sorry @Wreck-Diver as I have to agree with @Bones and @Rancid-Schnitzel
If available, I would have Proctor at 13 and move Aso back to the wing with
ArdieJulian (edit thanks @booboo ) on the other. Aso's defense at Centre is a bit sus as he tends to shoot up and miss tackles.Aso has done well in Proctor's absence but I'd have Proctor back at Centre in a heart beat.
Plus, whilst stats don't always tell the full picture, they certainly help to give context and those stats that @Bones linked to give excellent context.
Anyway, all a moot point as Proctor isn't available and I would go with the backline as suggested earlier in the thread:
11 Julian Savea
12 Laumape
12 Aso
14 Milner-Skudder
15 Jordie BarrettStill a very settled and potent backline and one that has all the potential to help the 'Canes go back to back!
My $0.02 worth
