All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2
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Well, this has been interesting (but expected) reading. No surprise the knives are out for SBW. I think 3/4 of the refs involved wanted to go with a yellow but the Frenchie was always giving a red.
I don't think the Laumape play worked. We missed Kaino and at the crucial stages in the end Read was getting smashed which is frightening.
The winning penalty was utter bullshit, but we really should have been more points ahead by that stage.
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@ACT-Crusader O'Brien might be missing next week....
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Most concerning for me, even after the loss, is posters here somehow thinking the red for SBW was not deserved, or that it was somehow accidental? What the actual fuck? He intentionally lined up a guys head with his shoulder while the guy was being tackled - what on earth did he hope to get out of that?
Oh and - go away Cruden.
Awful consistency from the ref, but he's French, what do we expect?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Duluth said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
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Is @NTA one of them or is he boring people about his Powerwall?
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Have to say I hate the 'jump to take a pass/into a tackle' and agree the final penalty was bollocks. What is a tackler meant to do, step aside and let him through the line? It's entirely different to jumping to take a high ball.
I always thought from my playing days that jumping into a tackle was illegal, but I don't think I've ever seen it penalised in the pro game.
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@Nepia yeah we missed kaino, and yep it told in the end with our guys running out of gas - but i just don't think you can defend in the backs a man down for 3/4 of a game - and a big part of the gameplan was running SBW at their closer channel, a job laumape is made for. to hansen's credit he also tried to mitigate it by bringing on the prop subs earlier than usual, and subbing whitelock and cane earlier, but it is a hell of a tough situation to cope with and we almost hung in there - pretty tough to fault the decision in those circumstances i think.
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@SimonAdd_2 Agree.
However we're so far down the "player safety" rabbit hole that the poor whistle blower couldn't really call anything else - no doubt some poorly though out directive. It's an ideal over-ruling reality (again)fluffybunny of a way to decide an intriguing game though
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Is the second penalty for jumping into a tackle on tour so far
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Well my margin of 13+ didn't happen but a win will do me. In work so didn't get to see it.
Congrats Lions. Commiserations NZ. Sets it up nicely for next week.
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@reprobate We'll never know TBF. But considering we had ALB packing down on every scrum bar one and we barely ever had a set backline I don't think we needed to do it.
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@taniwharugby you mean the second penalty against the tackler? I can't remember the first.
I've always hated it. Up there with diving over the top of a ruck to score a try for me. Leaves the defenders no legal recourse and just feels like a loophole in the laws that defies the spirit of the game.
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I think we had to make that Kaino sub. For the two Lions tries (and one of them was 14 against 14) they looked like they were doing a very good job exploiting our wide defenders. I would shudder to think what would have happened if we were down a back. The forwards would be shattered after that but they did enough for us to win that game tonight. Still feel for Kaino though.
