All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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Pretty exciting team. Sux that Coles isn't fit.
Surprised but not surprised about the Rieko vs Savea selection. Hopefully Rieko goes well like he did for the Blues. Glad he got in agead of Naholo.
Surprised about the midfield. Didn't think it would be ALB who missed out if SBW was going to start.
I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.
Ine thing that hasn't been mention much is A Smith
claiming the starting 9 spot. I guess the Samoa game signalled it but 2 weeks ago plenty of people were sure it would be TJP. I think they have got it right. -
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.
He doesn't play sports. He is sports.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Poor Scotland.
Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok
With the emphasis on token
Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend
Comedy Gold
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
And not half as useful.
The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.
So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.
And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Poor Scotland.
Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok
With the emphasis on token
Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend
Comedy Gold
Thanks. I'm here most weeks when I haven't been banned.
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
And not half as useful.
The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.
So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.
And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.
Easy tiger. It's @Bones you need to have a go at, not me.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Oh so it's only the best offload in traffic for someone playing in the centres, I missed that qualification. Still heavily debatable...
Bro he's far and away the best offloader in the game......
Out of all the other Muslims who have played league, tried to box and who don't like banks.
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Have been flicking through this thread under the fog of alcohol. Are the SBW knockers questioning his big game credentials?
Watch the Blues vs Lions game again and realise that he put in the best midfield performance of the year.
Follow up by examining why "but Steve would pick my player" is no longer valid. Follow with a lament for Rob Thompson.
Finally just chill and realise that the ABs selected the best player in the country, as they usually do.
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@Tim I don't think anyone's knocking SBW. It seems Chester has a huge problem with Crotty being selected though.
He keeps referring to the Lions/Crusaders game for some reason. I don't know why given Crotty wasn't even playing.
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@pukunui said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.
My take on the Barrett selection is that there's proabbaly a strong likelihood that our two frontline locks will play 80, Barrett could replace Kaino in the second half and Ardie for Cane.
Romano is very effective at shifting bodies at the ruck which is still needed late in the game.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
This thread has got weird - this is what happens when Hansen goes all quiet before a big test - send in the clowns.
Despite best attempts to argue about selections, this Hansen fella really doesn't give us much.
If only Mark Ranby was selected....
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@ACT-Crusader Christ for second there I thought you were going to say Mark Reason
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Maybe this is one for the Palmerston North thread ( @PN ) but I saw Basil Brush at the Regent Theatre when he toured NZ
Basil was a Saturday tradition for me growing up. Club rugby in the mornings; rep rugby in the afternoon; then home to eat din-dins watching Baz early evening. I fuckin' love that guy.
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I don't get the Naholo angst. Until he strings 3 games together where he doesn't make at least 1 major blunder he is not yet the man. If NZ lose the first test he'll be right back into the equation though.
As for Romano/Barrett. Barrett is just a better rugby player.
I'm undecided about Crotty vs ALB. Saturday should help me decide.
The AB back three should be much better under the high ball than some of the efforts we have seen recently (Bridge, Lowe etc)
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Probably the main difference between SBW and the other two midfielders in attack , is his preference to pass the ball after he has made contact rather than before ,
Whether that is effective in breaking up their defense , I guess we find out saturday
