Hurricanes vs Stormers
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@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Stormers:
Pretty sure if you are offside like that you have to move back (i.e. Make an effort to basically turn around and get back behind the kicker). You can't just get magically put back onside by a faster player.
It's related to the 10 meter offside law I think.
If a guy kicks the ball behind you but runs past, doesn't that then put you onside? Not sure if that applies here though.
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No.
Law 11.1 &11.4 offside in general play and possibly offside and 10 meters.
Relevant part is can't move towards the ball.
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I'm your situation, you would only get put onside if you stopped when they kicked it and didn't move towards the ball until they put you onside.
That's why Laumape is penalized, he didn't magically stop and continued to move towards (and play) the ball.
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@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Stormers:
No.
Law 11.1 &11.4 offside in general play and possibly offside and 10 meters.
Relevant part is can't move towards the ball.
Ahhh. That settles it then. Cheers.
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Watched full game.
Canes absolutely monstered in the physical aspects, particularly Ardie. Stormers were hunting in packs though. Really muscled up. That was seriously impressive.
Can't believe that cross kick worked about 18 times. BB was on autopilot most of the game.
Disappointed despite the win. Too many basic mistakes and that try when 14 vs 15 was weak as. A more clinical Stormers side would have won that.
As mentioned, this goal kicking thing needs to be sorted out. Unless there's some cunning plan to select DMac, BB needs the practice.
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Think the crusaders had a try disallowed last season when a kick was put through, Matt Tood was on the opposite side of the field to the kicker and ball but continued moving forward in front of the kicker despite having zero influence on anything
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Hurricanes vs Stormers:
@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Stormers:
Pretty sure if you are offside like that you have to move back (i.e. Make an effort to basically turn around and get back behind the kicker). You can't just get magically put back onside by a faster player.
It's related to the 10 meter offside law I think.
If a guy kicks the ball behind you but runs past, doesn't that then put you onside?
Yes, as long as you don't progress down the field until you're put onside.
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Regardless, I don't think Jordie did get in front again. Here's the clip:
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@Milk said in Hurricanes vs Stormers:
Regardless, I don't think Jordie did get in front again. Here's the clip:
Looks to me like he goes in front within the next couple of paces. Laumape was slowing down so you could argue he was stopping advancing...JB isn't exactly lightening.
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the rule is, if you are in front when it is kicked, you either stand still or move back, slowing to allow the guy in front isnt going to put you onside, unfortunately in that situation, Laumape is always offside, and if he stops then starts he doesnt catch the ball, so being in front has a big impact on the play.
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@taniwharugby no, the law is you don't move towards the opposition or where the ball is going to land or you risk sanction. JB goes in front almost immediately after kicking the ball...
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Im surprised people even debating this. Laumape offside every day of the week there. A rugby 101 type decision.
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@Billy-Tell said in Hurricanes vs Stormers:
Im surprised people even debating this. Laumape offside every day of the week there. A rugby 101 type decision.
What he said
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@Bones isnt that what I said, just with different words?
Laumape was in front when kicked and did move forward toward the opposition, toward the ball the entire time, so clearly offside.
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@taniwharugby the entire time? It's literally less than a second.
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@Bones doesn't matter. That's why I said he magically has to stop then start again.
Relevant law:
11.1 Offside in general play
(a)
A player who is in an offside position is liable to sanction only if the player does one of three things:
Interferes with play or, Moves forward, towards the ball or Fails to comply with the 10-Metre Law (Law 11.4).
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(c) Offside and moving forward. When a team-mate of an offside player has kicked ahead, the offside player must not move towards opponents who are waiting to play the ball, or move towards the place where the ball lands, until the player has been put onside.
