All Blacks v Ireland II
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Thoughts on the citings
Cane : Justice is done accidental collision no fault plain to see for all should never have been cited.
Fekitoa : Bad tackle but no malice yellow on the field and week sit down is the right result.
Sexton : Not cited but tackle was just as bad as Fekitoa's Not sure about malice so should have been penalty try, yellow card and a week sit down. This is the only thing the citing commission missed in my view.
There were no straight red tackles on Saturday, there were no eye gouges no knees to the head of prone players, no punches no spare tackles and no other filth. There were 2 high tackles that happened in the heat of the game with no real malice, they weren't swinging arms they were just shit tackles. I only want to see Yellows for those and if the offender does it again then yes its a red.
As for this stat about number of penalties per yellow card. Context is everything. I see that stat and I extrapolate we are the cleanest team in international rugby as cards are usually given for foul play or professional fouls. That tells me the majority of our penalties were probably not either of those.
But without knowing what each penalty was given for and where it was given and the proximity to other penalties that stat means nothing. You can get penalised for offside, sealing off, collapsing a ruck, interfering with a jumper in the line out, Not realeasing the ball, not releasing the tackler not staying on your feet, playing the ball on the ground. intentionally knocking on the ball the list is fucking epic, I wont go on.
None of these things are yellow card offenses without context.
My last thoughts in this thread.
Did Jaco have a good game? Mixed, he missed a few things both ways his ruck management was a bit messy and he probably let the chat get a bit out of hand. Did it affect the result. Not that I saw.
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just on the game for a change... i'm a bit concerned that we are not as good as we think we are. ireland, who until chicago had never beaten us - now have, and then have followed it up with a performance from their forwards which was our equal. normally we come out super fired up and over-run teams after a loss like that, but even with that extra motivation we didn't over-run the irish. that game was closer than the scoreline indicated, we were under a lot of pressure, and they lost their 10 and 12 early.
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A bit of both. If Dagg had scored and we opened up a bigger lead the Irish would have had to chase harder, the game would have been more open and that suits us. Not sure about best Irish team ever but best drilled for sure. The problem for the Irish is finding solutions when the game plan isn't producing enough points. There they have work to do. They had almost given up trying to break down our defence by the end.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@mariner4life as a parent when my son rides his bike I worry he might fall off
I can save you one of those worries.
He will fall off. It's a cast iron certainty. Lance Armstrong fell off. George Bennett falls off. Even I...with my enormous skills and experience.... fall off.
Incidentally, my mother met George, biking over a local hill recently - he was apparently chasing his mother who was ahead on a mountainbike.
My mother said she'd never seen anyone going so fast - "like a bat out of hell" apparently.
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@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
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@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
Can you imagine the response if Krustys team was reffed like that and then had the Irish media behaving likes such idiots?
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Am not a Mark Watson fan but I have to say his introduction to his 7pm show was brilliant. Could not have agreed more and was funny seeing a coupe of Irish callers ringing in and losing it over what he said. Here's the link for anyone interested. Skip to the 7.00 minute mark.
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.11.23-19.00.00-D.mp3
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
Can you imagine the response if Krustys team was reffed like that and then had the Irish media behaving likes such idiots?
I'd pay to be at the press conference after the game. I think I would have to bring my owe beers though
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@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
it would be sheer entertainment - reason enough in itself, but mostly it is because moore's a whinger, best is a whinger, and read is a whinger too for that matter - even more so for the crusaders when things aren't going their way. i'm sick of it. it's never 'what are we doing wrong here, how can we stop being penalised'. it is always 'can you watch the opposition, they're doing x sir'. just shut your bitch mouth, leave the bloke alone and play the game.
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@Bones said in Ireland II:
@akan004 I haven't listened to him before and am told he's a wankstain - which I can easily see from thath little bit. But I have to admit I did have a bit of a laugh at the BOD interview.
The BOD interview was great, as was his opening comments. Have also heard hes a cock of monumental proportions too.
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@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
it would be sheer entertainment - reason enough in itself, but mostly it is because moore's a whinger, best is a whinger, and read is a whinger too for that matter - even more so for the crusaders when things aren't going their way. i'm sick of it. it's never 'what are we doing wrong here, how can we stop being penalised'. it is always 'can you watch the opposition, they're doing x sir'. just shut your bitch mouth, leave the bloke alone and play the game.
We can thank Fitzy I suppose
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@reprobate I was annoyed we didn't score more and that the Irish weren't down to 14 men at stages.
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@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
I'd pay to see that.
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@akan004 said in Ireland II:
Am not a Mark Watson fan but I have to say his introduction to his 7pm show was brilliant. Could not have agreed more and was funny seeing a coupe of Irish callers ringing in and losing it over what he said. Here's the link for anyone interested. Skip to the 7.00 minute mark.
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.11.23-19.00.00-D.mp3
I hate you for making me listen to Watson. But yes, you are correct he was bang on. Who'd a thunk it?
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@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@jegga said in Ireland II:
@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
Can you imagine the response if Krustys team was reffed like that and then had the Irish media behaving likes such idiots?
I'd pay to be at the press conference after the game. I think I would have to bring my owe beers though
@jegga Beat me to it Jegs
