All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.
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Disappointing decision by the ref, disallowing a try, but it becomes a moot point and irrelevant when you done by 20+ points. Perhaps a closer game you'd be justified in bringing it up. We just sound like poor losers. The booing though, pathetic, that needs to end. I'm sure the All Blacks players are cringing when they hear their supporters booing the opposition.
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Kafer lost his shit last night and said that Owens should never ref an international game ever again. I hope he apologizes. Kafer has always been one of the better coms on Fox but that was disgraceful.
Cheika is just an appalling character. His pathetic tantrums and conspiracy theories belong in soccer not rugby. It's a shame because this team does have potential and actually looked well coached yesterday.
I haven't been much of a fan of Liam Squire, but I have to say that he's given me a bit if a stiffy in the past few weeks.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Just watching the Cheika presser. I have so far only had your guy's comment to judge by. The actual vision is so so much worse!! 😨
So the All Blacks put the cartoon in the paper and the All Blacks planted the bug story.
He's not a clown he's a comedian.
That was just a bit weird - why did they blame the ABs for that? They had the frikkin media who wrote that in front of them, they should have taken that opportunity.
Cheika actually says some reasonable stuff when he just talks about what happens in the game and doesn't go off book.
Is he their Mitchell?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Kafer lost his shit last night and said that Owens should never ref an international game ever again. I hope he apologizes. Kafer has always been one of the better coms on Fox but that was disgraceful.
Cheika is just an appalling character. His pathetic tantrums and conspiracy theories belong in soccer not rugby. It's a shame because this team does have potential and actually looked well coached yesterday.
I haven't been much of a fan of Liam Squire, but I have to say that he's given me a bit if a stiffy in the past few weeks.
I'm (we're?) getting a bit tired of Cheika having these dummy spits every time the ref makes a call he doesn't agree with. OK the disallowed try, you'd forgive him for losing the plot, but he does it every time something doesn't go the Wallabies way. He did it throughout the Wallabies/Eng series, very tiresome.
re Owens, great ref, he made a mistake, it didn't cost us the game. It could be argued that perhaps if the try wasn't disallowed then the shape of the game would have changed, but after we leaked 20+ points at the end, I don't really see it.
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@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Kafer lost his shit last night and said that Owens should never ref an international game ever again. I hope he apologizes. Kafer has always been one of the better coms on Fox but that was disgraceful.
Cheika is just an appalling character. His pathetic tantrums and conspiracy theories belong in soccer not rugby. It's a shame because this team does have potential and actually looked well coached yesterday.
I haven't been much of a fan of Liam Squire, but I have to say that he's given me a bit if a stiffy in the past few weeks.
I'm (we're?) getting a bit tired of Cheika having these dummy spits every time the ref makes a call he doesn't agree with. OK the disallowed try, you'd forgive him for losing the plot, but he does it every time something doesn't go the Wallabies way. He did it throughout the Wallabies/Eng series, very tiresome.
re Owens, great ref, he made a mistake, it didn't cost us the game. It could be argued that perhaps if the try wasn't disallowed then the shape of the game would have changed, but after we leaked 20+ points at the end, I don't really see it.
Why did you think he made a mistake? He referred what he thought was illegal play to the TMO. The TMO reviewed the footage and they found that DHP illegally obstructed Savea - which he did.
What mistake did Owen's make?
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Just quickly.....
Todd was very good. Better than I gave him credit for.
The way through us is running angles back at the ruck on a flat ball.
Kafer said on air that Owens should never be allowed to ref again. Ok you lost your shit for a second but thats not on at all.
IMO there was only a slight chance Savea would have got Speight but there was an opportunity and he was denied it.
Savea is going to eclipse Doug Howletts record at the 55 test mark I reckon.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Kafer lost his shit last night and said that Owens should never ref an international game ever again. I hope he apologizes. Kafer has always been one of the better coms on Fox but that was disgraceful.
Cheika is just an appalling character. His pathetic tantrums and conspiracy theories belong in soccer not rugby. It's a shame because this team does have potential and actually looked well coached yesterday.
I haven't been much of a fan of Liam Squire, but I have to say that he's given me a bit if a stiffy in the past few weeks.
I'm (we're?) getting a bit tired of Cheika having these dummy spits every time the ref makes a call he doesn't agree with. OK the disallowed try, you'd forgive him for losing the plot, but he does it every time something doesn't go the Wallabies way. He did it throughout the Wallabies/Eng series, very tiresome.
re Owens, great ref, he made a mistake, it didn't cost us the game. It could be argued that perhaps if the try wasn't disallowed then the shape of the game would have changed, but after we leaked 20+ points at the end, I don't really see it.
Why did you think he made a mistake? He referred what he thought was illegal play to the TMO. The TMO reviewed the footage and they found that DHP illegally obstructed Savea - which he did.
What mistake did Owen's make?
Not sure of the rules, Savea was never going to make the tackle. If what DHP did is a legitimate offence (shepherding a player in back-play) then the rules need to change.
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@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Disappointing decision by the ref, disallowing a try, but it becomes a moot point and irrelevant when you done by 20+ points. Perhaps a closer game you'd be justified in bringing it up.
And Cheika started basically that.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Why did you think he made a mistake? He referred what he thought was illegal play to the TMO. The TMO reviewed the footage and they found that DHP illegally obstructed Savea - which he did.
What mistake did Owen's make?
Actually I don't think Owens referred it - Veldsman wanted to look at it from the replays.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@zed Say what? You want to legalise obstruction as long as it happens behind the ball? Have you been smoking the same stuff Kafe seems to be these days?
Lets say that happened 70 metres out - would you call it a legitimate penalising?
lol no. But what DHP did was not significant enough to disallow the try.
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@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@zed Say what? You want to legalise obstruction as long as it happens behind the ball? Have you been smoking the same stuff Kafe seems to be these days?
Lets say that happened 70 metres out - would you call it a legitimate penalising?
lol no. But what DHP did was not significant enough to disallow the try.
Clearly it was, because the try was disallowed. If DHP had not obstructed Savea then none of this would have happened and I could have been saying "what an awesome ankle tap by Savea" or "if Speight was a pie Savea would have caught him". The reason I'm not is because DHP decided to obstruct him.
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@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@zed Say what? You want to legalise obstruction as long as it happens behind the ball? Have you been smoking the same stuff Kafe seems to be these days?
Lets say that happened 70 metres out - would you call it a legitimate penalising?
lol no. But what DHP did was not significant enough to disallow the try.
FFS man. Enough people have quoted the Law by now. The offence has nothing to do with whether a try would be still be scored.
Yes, it happens often in games behind normal play and doesn't get penalised but if you do it just before a try you run a high risk of being spotted and pinged.
To be clear the action of scoring the try was not disallowed. Foul play prior to the try was seen and ruled on. -
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Disappointing decision by the ref, disallowing a try, but it becomes a moot point and irrelevant when you done by 20+ points. Perhaps a closer game you'd be justified in bringing it up.
And Cheika started basically that.
Yep he was fine about that, but why, for the love of God did he have to basically blame the abs for pictures in the Herald or mention the bugging incident? Or even the lack of a beer invite? What's wrong with him?
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I was pretty boozed when I watched this, but the thing that was apparent to me was how quickly the wallabies structure on both sides of the ball break down. It only takes a couple of phases for them to look really disorganised
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
I was pretty boozed when I watched this, but the thing that was apparent to me was how quickly the wallabies structure on both sides of the ball break down. It only takes a couple of phases for them to look really disorganised
Especially the backs. In part that was because our three-quarter line had about 25 caps between them. Also I just don't rate Speight defensively. His attempted intercept was the right move until it utterly wasn't.
Some very poor tackling from starting 11, 12, 13, 14 and the replacement (Naivalu?) wasn't much better
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@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Kafer lost his shit last night and said that Owens should never ref an international game ever again. I hope he apologizes. Kafer has always been one of the better coms on Fox but that was disgraceful.
Cheika is just an appalling character. His pathetic tantrums and conspiracy theories belong in soccer not rugby. It's a shame because this team does have potential and actually looked well coached yesterday.
I haven't been much of a fan of Liam Squire, but I have to say that he's given me a bit if a stiffy in the past few weeks.
I'm (we're?) getting a bit tired of Cheika having these dummy spits every time the ref makes a call he doesn't agree with. OK the disallowed try, you'd forgive him for losing the plot, but he does it every time something doesn't go the Wallabies way. He did it throughout the Wallabies/Eng series, very tiresome.
re Owens, great ref, he made a mistake, it didn't cost us the game. It could be argued that perhaps if the try wasn't disallowed then the shape of the game would have changed, but after we leaked 20+ points at the end, I don't really see it.
Why did you think he made a mistake? He referred what he thought was illegal play to the TMO. The TMO reviewed the footage and they found that DHP illegally obstructed Savea - which he did.
What mistake did Owen's make?
Not sure of the rules, Savea was never going to make the tackle. If what DHP did is a legitimate offence (shepherding a player in back-play) then the rules need to change.
Bollocks. Don't play the man without the ball ...
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Disappointing decision by the ref, disallowing a try, but it becomes a moot point and irrelevant when you done by 20+ points. Perhaps a closer game you'd be justified in bringing it up.
And Cheika started basically that.
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