Springboks v All Blacks
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks:
On Naholo, I think he is quicker then Savea but not as powerful. Skill wise very similar, both are OK under the high ball and have a reasonable but not great passing/kicking game.
You can't deny what Savea has achieved, and even when he isn't playing well he finds his way to the try line.
One thing you can say is that both attract a lot of defense, and with BB at first five it must be fun being in the AB midfield right now!
Although looking at the last two tests some of the offloads from ALB have been when there has been a couple of defenders on him.
Savea has been single cover for the most part and that's where I think some have been a bit disappointed in his play as he hasn't been able to exploit that like previous seasons.
Yeah, as I've said before with Savea the bar is set very high. If he only has 1 or 2 blokes ahead of him he's expected to beat them and if he doesn't it's a fail.
I don't know the stats but he has actually beat the first man on a number of occasions, and has made very good ground close to the ruck a number of times. He's not at the heights he was a couple of years ago but most international coaches would give their left arm for him.
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Nah, it's the same exact thing that happened to Dagg between 2013-2015. The bar's automatically set high for any NZ outside back because more than any other position, they're the ones we always seem to have an endless supply of talent coming through or able to slot in at a high level (like Kahui or Barrett). And since everyone always enjoys it when a new, exciting player breaks into the team, Savea put a target on his own back with a rubbish season last year and another rubbish Super and June test season this year. He did admittedly make a good comeback in the first few rounds of the RC but not enough to throw out all the questions surrounding him IMO.
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@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks:
On Naholo, I think he is quicker then Savea but not as powerful. Skill wise very similar, both are OK under the high ball and have a reasonable but not great passing/kicking game.
You can't deny what Savea has achieved, and even when he isn't playing well he finds his way to the try line.
One thing you can say is that both attract a lot of defense, and with BB at first five it must be fun being in the AB midfield right now!
Although looking at the last two tests some of the offloads from ALB have been when there has been a couple of defenders on him.
Savea has been single cover for the most part and that's where I think some have been a bit disappointed in his play as he hasn't been able to exploit that like previous seasons.
Yeah, as I've said before with Savea the bar is set very high. If he only has 1 or 2 blokes ahead of him he's expected to beat them and if he doesn't it's a fail.
I don't know the stats but he has actually beat the first man on a number of occasions, and has made very good ground close to the ruck a number of times. He's not at the heights he was a couple of years ago but most international coaches would give their left arm for him.
I don't know the stats either, but im pretty sure Jules has beaten more defenders than Dagg.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Springboks v All Blacks:
Re Barrett, I'm very keen to see SBW outside him. He could create havoc just hanging off BB shoulder when BB hits the line.
Jeez, totally forgot about Sonny. That's the life of an AB supporter right now
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@mimic Yeah I did a post in another thread...I'll see if I can find it.
Here we go:
Here you go, some stats for this guy who's only taking up space.
Currently tied 1st for tries, equal with Ben Smith and Crotty.
Shockingly, he's way down at 8th on the carries list with only 42. Oh but that's odd as he tops the metres list with 378 (next best is Isa with 361).
Top on clean breaks with 11, (Ben Smith 10, Isa, 8 ).
4th in Defenders beaten with 16 (Smith 20, Isa 19, Barrett 17).
This stats are from the Herald, so not sure how accurate, but hey, seem to paint a picture of a guy doing something right, even if he's not in the form which might get him compared to Jonah.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Springboks v All Blacks:
Re Barrett, I'm very keen to see SBW outside him. He could create havoc just hanging off BB shoulder when BB hits the line.
And vice versa... SBW taking in a couple of tacklers, offloading to BB... that's gotta be a try per game.
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Going to be interesting to see how selections evolve over the next couple of years ,
I cant recall an era where its just so hard to pin point a weakness in our game ,
Right now , with our run on side I guess you would say goalkicking is possibly it
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I think it has to be borne in mind that after the first half the Bokke defence was as porous as Swiss cheese: http://www.planetrugby.com/news/analysis-south-africas-40-missed-tackles/
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@kiwiinmelb said in Springboks v All Blacks:
Going to be interesting to see how selections evolve over the next couple of years ,
I cant recall an era where its just so hard to pin point a weakness in our game ,
Right now , with our run on side I guess you would say goalkicking is possibly it
don't worry bro, Eddie knows our weaknesses, he just aint willing to share them for fear we sort them out before we face England in 2018!
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@kiwiinmelb said in Springboks v All Blacks:
Going to be interesting to see how selections evolve over the next couple of years ,
I cant recall an era where its just so hard to pin point a weakness in our game ,
Right now , with our run on side I guess you would say goalkicking is possibly it
sure we're so far in front in recent games that it hasn't mattered at all - but goalkicking is a definite weakness, not a possible one. barrett is a great player, but what did he hit off the tee, 5 from 9 or something? that's shithouse, he looked shithouse doing it, some of them were easy kicks, and conditions were not an issue.
at least getting to kick 9 conversions a week is plenty of opportunity to practice so it shouldn't be a weakness for long.
