Springboks v All Blacks
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@Rapido be surprised if he has 2 kicking styles/techniques...if he does, then that there is his problem.
Golfers don't have 2 swings, they just make adjustments for the wind (different club length) the mechanics of kicking and a golf swing have similarities.
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Back in 2003 for example when we put 50 on the Boks and Wobblies away. We used to live on about 40 % possession.
This game we had 60%.
I don't know what this means for opposition thinking up counter strategies.
But I'll take this opportunity to say once again how much I love everyone who has anything to do with our lineout.
Scrum is quite good too.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks:
@Rapido be surprised if he has 2 kicking styles/techniques...if he does, then that there is his problem.
Golfers don't have 2 swings, they just make adjustments for the wind (different club length) the mechanics of kicking and a golf swing have similarities.
Its most likely the same with golf, same swing, but you adjust by moving the ball back or forwards in your address or if using a tee going lower or higher. If I'm looking to punch in golf I'll have the ball back further towards my back foot.
With goal kicking the easiest way to do it is chance the angle the ball sits on the tee. Leg swing & approach are exactly the same.
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To be rather hypercritical, there were a few areas where I'm not sure things were as quite as rosy as they seem.
I didn't feel Barrett in the first half managed the game that well. That said, from broken play and at fullback he is lethal.
Likewise I think Crotty/ALB, whilst working well is not the long term solution. Too similar -- a little like two Conrads. Didn't seem to trouble the Boks in the first half. It has usually been the case that a big unit allied to a skillful thinker has been our best combination.
ALB's youth and passing suggest he could well be the long term answer at 13. But I fancy SBW or Moala more at 12 to create some mayhem.
Crotty is a wonderful servant of the game and has been invaluable in this transition year but in the longer term I feel he may miss out as he did in the RWC. -
just got around to watching this after being out of circulation for a few days. fuck me, what an absolute thrashing. i would feel sorry for the boks if they were rebuilding and trying to play attacking rugby and got hammered like that, but since they picked steyn and kicked away everything they got i say fuck em, good job.
hard to defend against our boys when they play like that. every player has the skills and vision to move the ball. we make a turnover and it is just as likely to be crockett, coles etc as a back flicking the ball out so we can get it wide quick and take advantage.
crotty was very very good. everyone is messing the pants over ALB, justifiably so, but crotty's accuracy and decision-making and securing of ball, keeping ball alive, keeping the ball moving were all great.
i had hoped perenara had turned a corner last game, but this game he was back to shit passing. still a great support runner, but his passing was often horrible and often it was just great skills from other guys preventing his shit service from damaging us more.
dagg is doing some very good stuff out there. barrett very good, give someone else the tee. naholo deserves his spot. smith good as always.
the forwards: todd played well, seamless. everyone was bloody good really, but special mention must go to retallick, just huge. -
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I agree with this. Aaron Smith is brilliant but I think TJs ability to clear the ball no matter how it comes back is stronger. He is not pressured at the breakdown the way Smith sometimes is. I thought there were two poor passes out of what seemed like the most passes ever by a half back. -
@Tregaskis I was going to mention this. If you ever wanted evidence of the impact the AB bench offers compared to other teams this was the game. Most of the AB subs came on between 63-68 mins and the score was still 29-15 with 10 mins to go. Nearly as many points (28) were scored in the final 10 mins as in the first 70 mins.
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Re TJP/Smith, I think you have to look at the impact his pass makes on the first five's game. I thought BB looked a bit flat in H1, but it could well be that the relative inaccuracy and delay in TJP's pass meant he lost some time in terms of both waiting and having to think about the catch -- a half second at that level probably makes a ton of difference. But great to have a no.2 playing as well as TJP, and TKB is still pretty sold.
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Someone mentioned the Beast holding on to Whitelock. Read this before the game: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/10/08/referees-need-to-wise-up-to-the-scrummaging-dark-art-that-has-in/ . Noticed an early penalty against Todd, I think, where a Bokke (Etzebeth?) had hand between his knees pinning him in ruck. Garcies unsurprisingly missed that -- the first of many decisions I found 'challenging'.
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@agrantta said in Springboks v All Blacks:
@canefan Daniel Carters record on goal kicking statistically outstrips Fox on all fronts, 88% vs 83% for Fox in All test and World Cup was 93% to 90%.
Amazing how you remember things in your youth
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....with a leather ball that got heavier in the wet.
Imagine what Fox would have done with the modern balls? Still remember him slipping over for a conversion, getting up and drop kicking it instead and still went over. Might have even been with his wrong foot. Dude could kick.
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@Kirwan said in Springboks v All Blacks:
....with a leather ball that got heavier in the wet.
Imagine what Fox would have done with the modern balls? Still remember him slipping over for a conversion, getting up and drop kicking it instead and still went over. Might have even been with his wrong foot. Dude could kick.
Should have been disallowed as ot was 5 or so metres further in field when he kicked it ...
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@broughie I agree with this. Barrett being the threat he is and the form he is in opens up opportunities for others - i'm sure part of the reason the midfield has looked good recently is that Barrett has to be accounted for at 10 you can't just slide off him and try and pressure the midfield because he is too good and too skillful.
I see the opposite of this when I watch Auckland play in Mitre 10 Cup - poor Rieko Ioane often has to deal with rubbish passes from Simon Hickey, putting him on the backfoot (literally and figuratively) and defenders in his face a lot of the time. Especially when he was there without Nanai or Visinia to at least take some of the defensive attention.
Same sort of logic for a winger as dangerous as Naholo being super valuable - with his ability on the wing - he has to be accounted for which either opens up opportunties for him or others.
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@booboo said in Springboks v All Blacks:
@Kirwan said in Springboks v All Blacks:
....with a leather ball that got heavier in the wet.
Imagine what Fox would have done with the modern balls? Still remember him slipping over for a conversion, getting up and drop kicking it instead and still went over. Might have even been with his wrong foot. Dude could kick.
Should have been disallowed as ot was 5 or so metres further in field when he kicked it ...
No, he just picked it and drop kicked it from pretty much the same spot. Freakish.
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On Naholo, I think he is quicker then Savea but not as powerful. Skill wise very similar, both are OK under the high ball and have a reasonable but not great passing/kicking game.
You can't deny what Savea has achieved, and even when he isn't playing well he finds his way to the try line.
One thing you can say is that both attract a lot of defense, and with BB at first five it must be fun being in the AB midfield right now!