Aussie Pro Rugby
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@catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@majorrage said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I thought actually a fair article from Jones - as an opinion piece anyway. It's not written as fact, and presents one side of things.
Rugby has taken some decent strides over the years in ensuring acceptance for people who bat for the other team. It's most high profile ref is open, a lions captain is open & then you have well recognised and supported gay rugby competitions and teams. This didn't happen overnight.
Folau posting things like this could be read as taking some backward steps and in a public forum, does need to be dealt with. Yes, there are contradictions all over the show, but the ARU almost has an obligation to World Rugby to condemn.
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I say that 'cos I know you bastards will, but didn't Folau simply answer a question that was put to him rather than trumpet his views? That's my recollection anyway and if true then I would want to know who posed the question and why?
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I say that 'cos I know you bastards will, but didn't Folau simply answer a question that was put to him rather than trumpet his views? That's my recollection anyway and if true then I would want to know who posed the question and why?
Can I just slide a wee opinion in here ... and again correct me if I am wrong ... and forgive me (like any Christian would or should do) ... as I forgive the weasel words of those who twitter against us ... but Folau never suggested that homosexuals should go to hell, or that he wants them to (that would be very un-Christian of him).
Hardly "hate speech", more expressing an opinion derived from the Bible that they WILL go to Hell. Not "I hate you and I hope you burn".
You'd hope a Christian would express something more akin to "I hope you are redeemed and don't go to Hell".
WANTING someone to go to Hell is (or should be) anathema to a Christian.
Remember that billboard that "God loves Osama bin Ladin"? In Christianity everyone is loved, including those we'd kind of like, on normal circumstances, to see suffer for eternity.
... geez listen to me ... who am I? Billy Graham?
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@nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Fact: Reds haven't won with Higginbotham on the field this year
I'm happy to believe this is a clear case of causation.
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Our club yesterday: 15 blokes showed up and the other team were all big, BIG boys. The 51yo Scottish prop who should never play above Third Grade wasn't thrilled that he had to start, and he ended up playing the whole game. Luckily one of the guys who came along brought another prop. We fucking dicked them at scrum time - couple of tight heads even, but they had power and pace out wide and we ended up playing with 13 as two injuries mounted. Final result was 86-0 as we just ran out of puff.
Could be worse; we could be Penrith Grade hosting Sydney Uni yesterday:
0-97
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@nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Our club yesterday: 15 blokes showed up and the other team were all big, BIG boys. The 51yo Scottish prop who should never play above Third Grade wasn't thrilled that he had to start, and he ended up playing the whole game. Luckily one of the guys who came along brought another prop. We fucking dicked them at scrum time - couple of tight heads even, but they had power and pace out wide and we ended up playing with 13 as two injuries mounted. Final result was 86-0 as we just ran out of puff.
Could be worse; we could be Penrith Grade hosting Sydney Uni yesterday:
0-97
7-137
5-98
0-877-137?
I don't know what is more implausible. That score or the fact Penrith managed to score a try.
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Israel sets the record straight. An interesting article with a shot fired at the ARU.
https://www.playersvoice.com.au/israel-folau-im-a-sinner-too/#bcED1vVU6hSHRc5e.97
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Israel sets the record straight. An interesting article with a shot fired at the ARU.
https://www.playersvoice.com.au/israel-folau-im-a-sinner-too/#bcED1vVU6hSHRc5e.97
It is certainly interesting in that he doesn't understand the picture that what he sees as 'the truth' is not the truth, it is just his opinion.
THE Truth and THE Bible are subjective.Many employees have to put aside personal views in their jobs and many also have to keep the broadcasting of their personal views to a minimum to show awareness of bias accusations. It isn't an unusual situation. While they keep the 'right' to hold personal views they manage the public view.
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It's a little unfair that he says Castle misrepresented him via the comments on the news - TV interviews are whatever sound grabs the editor thinks will make a story.
I've sat through solid fifteen minute interviews about the Powerwall thing that got cut to shreds, understandably due to time considerations. In several cases they left out what both I, and the interviewer, felt were the most interesting parts.
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@crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:
It is certainly interesting in that he doesn't understand the picture that what he sees as 'the truth' is not the truth, it is just his opinion.
THE Truth and THE Bible are subjective.I didn't get that from it at all. I thought he was rather clear that this is what he believes.
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@nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:
It's a little unfair that he says Castle misrepresented him via the comments on the news - TV interviews are whatever sound grabs the editor thinks will make a story.
I've sat through solid fifteen minute interviews about the Powerwall thing that got cut to shreds, understandably due to time considerations. In several cases they left out what both I, and the interviewer, felt were the most interesting parts.
Don't try and hijack this thread.
