NH club rugby
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@Machpants said in NH club rugby:
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
Both Owen Farrell and Maro Itoje have signed long-term deals with Saracens.
Not mentioned anywhere, but there is no salary cap in the Championship. Thus these guys can take ( for ex) a 3 year deal, with the majority of the money paid in the championship year. Thus after they inevitability get promoted next season, Saracens will be basically well above the reduced cap. Easy winning there, from the cheating bastards, with their 3 undeserved titles
Not quite. To be promoted to the Premiership you have to operate within the salary cap the season prior.
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@Catogrande oh I didn't realise, my conspiracy theory out the window. They're still cheating bastards who should be striped of titles to!
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Huh, never heard of him. Go figure.
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@Bones said in NH club rugby:
And the video that went viral....again never seen it. Doesn't strike me as all that special in this!
Runs good support lines
Good hands
Wheels
Last try was excellent
oh and he's 14
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Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, for a 14/15yo the size of an 18yo up against other 14/15yo's that look a bit smaller he's brilliant!
Edit: What I guess I mean is - we've seen a few of these from kids physically years ahead of their peers, this video doesn't stand out over those for me. Incredible pace and a good eye for the outside, but nothing jaw dropping.
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@Bones said in NH club rugby:
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, for a 14/15yo the size of an 18yo up against other 14/15yo's that look a bit smaller he's brilliant!
Edit: What I guess I mean is - we've seen a few of these from kids physically years ahead of their peers, this video doesn't stand out over those for me. Incredible pace and a good eye for the outside, but nothing jaw dropping.
It was interesting to hear his views on his time at Bristol Bears. Basically he said there was nothing about his game other than his raw ability that was anywhere near good enough.
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@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@Bones said in NH club rugby:
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, for a 14/15yo the size of an 18yo up against other 14/15yo's that look a bit smaller he's brilliant!
Edit: What I guess I mean is - we've seen a few of these from kids physically years ahead of their peers, this video doesn't stand out over those for me. Incredible pace and a good eye for the outside, but nothing jaw dropping.
It was interesting to hear his views on his time at Bristol Bears. Basically he said there was nothing about his game other than his raw ability that was anywhere near good enough.
Hah yeah. I have some empathy. I'm basically in pretty much the same situation with rugby at the moment.
Actually no, raw ability is missing too.
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@Bones said in NH club rugby:
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, for a 14/15yo the size of an 18yo up against other 14/15yo's that look a bit smaller he's brilliant!
Edit: What I guess I mean is - we've seen a few of these from kids physically years ahead of their peers, this video doesn't stand out over those for me. Incredible pace and a good eye for the outside, but nothing jaw dropping.
Runs across field and doesn't carry the ball in two hands.
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@Bones said in NH club rugby:
@junior yeah yeah alright, let's get back to commenting on the kid, not me.
There was an implication that runs across the field = makes it to the other side.
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@Catogrande yeah, well, I reckon I could show these kids a thing or two.
Welsh rugby player banned for taking drugs before live Scrum V TV match
Hoskins has become the fourth Welsh rugby player to be banned this month after testing positive for illegal drugs
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@Bones said in NH club rugby:
@Catogrande yeah, well, I reckon I could show these kids a thing or two.
Hoskins has become the fourth Welsh rugby player to be banned this month after testing positive for illegal drugs
As you’re a Kiwi they would likely heed any lesson 😁
My nephew who is a police sergeant in S Wales reckons steroid use is commonplace and not just in the rugby community .
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@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@Bones said in NH club rugby:
@Catogrande yeah, well, I reckon I could show these kids a thing or two.
Hoskins has become the fourth Welsh rugby player to be banned this month after testing positive for illegal drugs
As you’re a Kiwi they would likely heed any lesson 😁
My nephew who is a police sergeant in S Wales reckons steroid use is commonplace and not just in the rugby community .
Has been for decades.
Quick fix gym bods.
Bubbling under players trying to make the A grade.
Often one and the same.
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@Stargazer what's he doing, bigging them up in the local media to keep his paycheque? That's pretty much all he seems to do over there
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@Machpants Fitzy's been made a Non-Executive Director and Board Member for the Scarlets.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/amp/rugby-union/53511178
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Trouble in Wales. Talks between the Welsh Rugby Board and the Players' Union have broken down:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53543831
Negotiations stall over Welsh player pay cuts
By Gareth Griffiths
BBC Sport WalesIn April, the Professional Rugby Board (PRB) reached an agreement with the Welsh Rugby Players' Association (WRPA) over a 25% salary reduction that would last for three months.
Talks to extend that deal have yet to reach an agreement, with dispute over how players can recoup lost earnings.
Negotiations will continue with the hopes the issue can be resolved before the Pro14 season resumes on 21 August.
The PRB represent the Welsh Rugby Union (WRU) and the four regions Cardiff Blues, Dragons, Ospreys and Scarlets.
With no rugby played in Wales since March, the WRU could lose £50m if it does not host international matches for the rest of this year.
WRU chief executive Martyn Phillips and Wales head coach Wayne Pivac are among the senior executives who have accepted continued 25% pay cuts, while other staff members have had a 10% reduction.
The WRPA have previously said "it is not appropriate to put players in comparative terms with the game's administrators with no employment certainty beyond rugby retirement".
Welsh Rugby Union hopeful on player pay talks
It is understood the WRPA and the players are willing to agree to a further 12 months of 25% pay cuts, on top of the three months they have already suffered.But they are unhappy about the proposals presented by the PRB on how to potentially reclaim lost earnings.
A chance to recoup lost wages is important to the players, who feel they should be able to share in future profits after agreeing to pay sacrifices now to preserve the game in Wales.
One of the sticking points was the scheme created for players to try and recoup their losses, which is deemed by the players to be unfair.
The proposals were thought to exclude any player from the scheme who extends his contract over the next three years or leaves Wales.
It is a scheme that appears to rule out most players, with the only individuals exempt being those who renegotiate contracts they are happy with in an agreed timeline.
The WPRA has said in previous statements every person in Welsh rugby should have the opportunity to try and recoup their losses.
Players now believe this is not the case for them and fear the PRB has not acknowledged these concerns.
It is understood no player strikes have been discussed by the WRPA, with both sides still striving to reach an agreement.
In July 2020, the Irish Rugby Football Union and Rugby Players Ireland reached an agreement on a pay cut for the four provincial sides' players.
Players earning more than 25,000 euros a year will face a 10% salary reduction from 1 July to 31 December. They will also have a 10% salary deferral, with 5% subject to a retrospective salary reduction pending the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic.
