All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris-B I agree. It looks like the ambition to play dazzling, fast and beautiful rugby exceeds the individual abilities of most of the players. It speaks perhaps to a lack of clarity of communication, pragmatism and honesty at the coaching level. Something isn’t working internally, I suspect.
Aside from the messy execution of an overly idealised game plan, I’m also alarmed at the players’ seeming inability to maintain discipline under pressure. This has been going on all year, and may reflect the frustration they feel at the gap between the coaches’ grandiose vision and the reality.
With that in mind, we shouldn’t overlook the distorting factor of money. The Silverlake private equity investment was in an AB brand built on fast, flowing and attacking rugby that is beautiful to watch. Those sort of investors are notoriously impatient, which leaves me thinking Robertson feels he must deliver on that in every game, and those pressures are getting to the players.
What’s needed is a greater sense of pragmatism - of building the strategy around the team, rather than the team around the strategy. I still wonder at what was behind Leon Macdonald’s early exit from the coaching set-up and whether NZ Rugby’s almost panicked early appointment of Robertson has created a culture where people are now frightened to question the boss.
Maybe what's missing is some wise old heads in the coaching set-up to provide a counterweight or sounding-board for the ambition - perhaps Robertson understands that for the team and why is sticking with the likes of Cane, BB etc
I genuinely think losing Schmidt was an opportunity lost and someone like him or Cotter in the set-up could make a big difference to executing the vision Robertson has.
It is a raw group for sure. That was mentioned many times on this forum when the coaching staff was announced. I do see an attitude and self-awareness that they have a lot learn as well, though. I see comparisons with early Henry and co in that regard which kind of proves taking over the ABs is a challenge for any kind of coach, international experience or not.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Watched some more highlights.
Shit a brick it is impressive how brilliantly Wallace Sititi has taken to test Rugby.
Hoskins who ?
Sititi was playing 6.
Yeah I know, thanks anyway
So really you should compare him to Savea ..
Ok.
Wow, he was awesome.
There you go.
Sotutu may be looking for recommendations at the moment so thank you.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Watched some more highlights.
Shit a brick it is impressive how brilliantly Wallace Sititi has taken to test Rugby.
Hoskins who ?
Sititi was playing 6.
Yeah I know, thanks anyway
So really you should compare him to Savea ..
Ok.
Wow, he was awesome.
There you go.
Sotutu may be looking for recommendations at the moment so thank you.
It doesn’t get better than a fern endorsement from me. He’ll be sweet
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Chris said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Sititi is a brilliant selection by Razor he was Hugh again.
That leg injury to Niggles which opened the door to Sititi was inspired.
Yep absolutely Brilliant.Of course Razor did pick him in the squad at the start of the year when a lot of people said why, not a great selection he is too raw etc.
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The stupidest thing was how when the ABs got the penalty around Min 75 or so, right in front of the sticks 10m out, after dominating the scrum ever since the bench came on, they quick tapped. It worked out with the Telea try, but how stupid was that? Get the scrum, win the advantage and in addition have far more space for your backline players. So tucking stupid, I shouted at my illegal stream
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@sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Watched some more highlights.
Shit a brick it is impressive how brilliantly Wallace Sititi has taken to test Rugby.
Hoskins who ?
Nah, play both of them once Hoskins is fit again next year.
……and run the risk of Blackadder not being selected ? Are you crazy ?
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@Tordah said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
The stupidest thing was how when the ABs got the penalty around Min 75 or so, right in front of the sticks 10m out, after dominating the scrum ever since the bench came on, they quick tapped. It worked out with the Telea try, but how stupid was that? Get the scrum, win the advantage and in addition have far more space for your backline players. So tucking stupid, I shouted at my illegal stream
Wasn’t that a free kick? If so, not much option. See also Englands garryowen.
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Good win. Sets tour up
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@Catogrande said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Tordah said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
The stupidest thing was how when the ABs got the penalty around Min 75 or so, right in front of the sticks 10m out, after dominating the scrum ever since the bench came on, they quick tapped. It worked out with the Telea try, but how stupid was that? Get the scrum, win the advantage and in addition have far more space for your backline players. So tucking stupid, I shouted at my illegal stream
Wasn’t that a free kick? If so, not much option. See also Englands garryowen.
Pretty sure it was a full penalty.
And I too was bellowing for a scrum.That England bomb was awesome and went fucking close to working. ABs very lucky
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If it was a full PK that was a dumb decision that late in the game.
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@Catogrande said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
If it was a full PK that was a dumb decision that late in the game.
Free kick!
(Caveat : I had had a few wines at that stage)
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Good win. Sets tour up
Yeah, against all odds really. Gardner and co. decided to go full "hometown". The crowd wanted blood, the lads with a bit of lady luck would have put 15 points on them but the bitch decided to disappear for the full 80. Even so the good guys won.
Having said that, if the lads don't improve against the whingy Green siths, things might come unstuck. -
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F#%k I hate the Irish rugby team, they repulse my Irish DNA with their soccer antics, their rugby culture which seems to be a dramatic victim whingefest, and ........ the high priests of victimhood, O'Driscoll and Sexton used to play for them. POM currently plays but at least he is funny and can walk the talk..
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@Old-Samurai-Jack
Losing this game would have made for a dour tour.
Guaranteed drama for the next one.
I'm going to Paris the next game. Some great players there.
Really hope they ditch the aimless kicking, concentrate, reduce errors.
Give Proctor and Lakai a run.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
F#%k I hate the Irish rugby team, they repulse my Irish DNA with their soccer antics, their rugby culture which seems to be a dramatic victim whingefest, and ........ the high priests of victimhood, O'Driscoll and Sexton used to play for them. POM currently plays but at least he is funny and can walk the talk..
Testify brother
But POM is bog average
