All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham
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Current forecast for the match is 14 degrees, a gentle breeze and a 4% chance of rain:
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@sparky I highly doubt England have improved since they went down under, having not played. If Razor's team can't take care of them after a whole season of learnings, then that's a complete failure.
I have to agree Bones. They have also had some upheaval with Felix Jones leaving and his tactics were the main reason for England doing well in NZ.
Playing at Twickenham is a factor but if we get beaten or beaten well, then it does make you wonder if we have improved. Especially as we have better personnel in this side for Saturday
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@sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.
What was so long about their season? Fresher, schmesher. Sounding like you're prepping to jump on the razor bandwagon, getting your excuses in early...
We should be vastly improved, they're playing their first game of the season, with a smidge of upheaval and an ordinary coach.
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.
What was so long about their season?
Their season started in August 2023, World Cup Prep, World Cup, English domestic Rugby and European club Rugby, the Six Nations, then back to Domestic and European Rugby and then in July 2024 a tour of NZ to round it off. Very long season for England's players. And they came within a smidgin of winning both tests in New Zealand.
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Only two VCs?! Amateurs. We've got this in the bag.
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I like fast wingers
Backline not instilling confidence -
Pretty happy with that team - BB aside. Really pleased the likes of Tamiti Williams & Ratima starting and Finau, Tosi, etc in the 23.
Be interesting to see how Will J goes but good to see him get another start at 15
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2025 gotta be the year of the backline sort out
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And find a 7
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It makes more sense to me to go Barrett-Barrett-Proctor.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Is De Groot injured?
Probably not fit as he usually isn't these days the slug. I'd take him over Tu'ungafasi if he was at proper pro rugby fitness and probably move Williams to the bench.
Has Tosi over taken Newell? Good if so. Newell's a better scrummager no doubt, but there's more upside to Tosi coming off the bench.
I'd also swap McKenzie and Barrett but other than that, I don't actually mind the side too much. Dare I say probably the best side they could have put out?
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@African-Monkey I mean if you're going to go off on EdG being unfit, I would hope you prefer Tosi over Newell!
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@African-Monkey I mean if you're going to go off on EdG being unfit, I would hope you prefer Tosi over Newell!
Newell is the ginger Nepo Laulala.
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@African-Monkey he might be even less agile and makes Laulala look like ALB when it comes to ball handling.
