If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?
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@reprobate said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Nepia agreed, some poor decisions for sure. But there have been a shitload of accusations of bias.
Every coach gets that, Fozzie got it over Chiefs players he'd never coached before.
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@Duluth said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Ryan has shown his bias since the first AB XV selection he made. The players are talking about it
I believe very strongly that Hoskins should have been picked. Outside of that, who are you talking about? I don't really see anyone else compelling who would contend for a starting spot.
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@brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Robertson got a side where the bulk of the players were a whisker away from winning and RWC.
To be fair, core and legendary players retired after the RWC, arguably the top AB coach left (I think it was Schmidt*, others can argue it was Foster), and the RWC was the high point of Foster's time, the overall period was not that impressive at all.
*Australia may be 10th officially, but he has installed belief and potential in a very young squad whose confidence is likely to have been obliterated by Fast Eddie.
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@reprobate said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Duluth said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Ryan has shown his bias since the first AB XV selection he made. The players are talking about it
I believe very strongly that Hoskins should have been picked. Outside of that, who are you talking about? I don't really see anyone else compelling who would contend for a starting spot.
Akira Ioane. If a coach can pick players who are retiring, they can also pick players before they go overseas.
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@nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@reprobate said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Duluth said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Ryan has shown his bias since the first AB XV selection he made. The players are talking about it
I believe very strongly that Hoskins should have been picked. Outside of that, who are you talking about? I don't really see anyone else compelling who would contend for a starting spot.
Akira Ioane. If a coach can pick players who are retiring, they can also pick players before they go overseas.
There's also the argument that if they wanted Akira Ioane he wouldn't be going overseas at all....
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@KiwiMurph said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@reprobate said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Duluth said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Ryan has shown his bias since the first AB XV selection he made. The players are talking about it
I believe very strongly that Hoskins should have been picked. Outside of that, who are you talking about? I don't really see anyone else compelling who would contend for a starting spot.
Akira Ioane. If a coach can pick players who are retiring, they can also pick players before they go overseas.
There's also the argument that if they wanted Akira Ioane he wouldn't be going overseas at all....
Not going there. I think that as well, but don't have the evidence. I do think he would have been better at 6 than Finau and most of the others.
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@KiwiMurph said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@reprobate said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Duluth said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Ryan has shown his bias since the first AB XV selection he made. The players are talking about it
I believe very strongly that Hoskins should have been picked. Outside of that, who are you talking about? I don't really see anyone else compelling who would contend for a starting spot.
Akira Ioane. If a coach can pick players who are retiring, they can also pick players before they go overseas.
There's also the argument that if they wanted Akira Ioane he wouldn't be going overseas at all....
Of course that’s true
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It's a bit unusual that the two premier positions in All Black rugby namely open side flanker and first five have such shallow depth.
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@canefan said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Victor-Meldrew said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@canefan said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@sparky said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Jet I think we'll be Quarter Finalists at best in the next two World Cups. The Golden era for NZ Rugby is well and truly over.
Look how fast the Foster era turned around when Schmidt and Ryan came on board. There is hope, we have some very good players. But so far Razor is not picking them and IMHO not quite playing a style that translates to test level. But to me it feels like a few tweaks in gameplan and personnel and we could right things dramatically
I don't know if the rumours about Schmidt not wanting to work with Robertson are true or not, but NZR were besotted with the idea of a fresh start with Robertson at the helm for 4 years and must have known they were losing key expertise and experience NZR have made their bed and it's up to them to support Robertson in any way they can.
The last thing we need is another man-management debacle like we had with Foster last year. No coach deserves that.
The rumours that Razor went to HQ and threatened to leave NZ if he didn't get the ABs job are apparently true. So they made their choice
I don't think letting your bosses know you're looking at moving on if there's nowhere up for you to go is typically considered threatening? If they're any good and value you, they'd want to know that...
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@KiwiMurph said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Scott Robertson was rightly hyped as the best coach in the fricken world
Rightly hyped as the best coach in the world despite never coaching test rugby and never coaching club rugby in Europe?
What?
Yeah far out haha, best coach in the world! Something only Cantabrians would say.
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@African-Monkey said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@KiwiMurph said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Scott Robertson was rightly hyped as the best coach in the fricken world
Rightly hyped as the best coach in the world despite never coaching test rugby and never coaching club rugby in Europe?
What?
Yeah far out haha, best coach in the world! Something only Cantabrians would say.
And I thought he was Otago!
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@African-Monkey said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@KiwiMurph said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Scott Robertson was rightly hyped as the best coach in the fricken world
Rightly hyped as the best coach in the world despite never coaching test rugby and never coaching club rugby in Europe?
What?
Yeah far out haha, best coach in the world! Something only Cantabrians would say.
Well, if "the world" means "Canterbury" it's not that much of a stretch...
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Savea, Cane, Papali'i, Jacobson, Lakai and probably Blackadder and Sititi could all excel at 7 if they were able to string some starts together there for a season.
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@Bones said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@African-Monkey said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@KiwiMurph said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Scott Robertson was rightly hyped as the best coach in the fricken world
Rightly hyped as the best coach in the world despite never coaching test rugby and never coaching club rugby in Europe?
What?
Yeah far out haha, best coach in the world! Something only Cantabrians would say.
And I thought he was Otago!
Otago's version of @Stargazer
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@brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Savea, Cane, Papali'i, Jacobson, Lakai and probably Blackadder and Sititi could all excel at 7 if they were able to string some starts together there for a season.
I think we should have a good idea of Cane and Paps at 7 (and Savea of course). Think Sititu's ballrunning might be wasted at 7 but the others are worth a try.
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@nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Sititu's
Mind blown
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Barrett won't be cut, but I hope he doesn't start any games on the EOYT.
The All Blacks are probably better off leaving Cane and Perenara behind, but I can also completely see both of them being selected. At least if Lakai travels, he might benefit from spending a few weeks rooming with Cane. I think between Ratima, Roigard (assuming he's completely back to full fitness) and possibly Christie/Hotham, there are enough options at halfback to cut Perenara altogether.
