All Blacks 2024
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@His-Bobness I agree with a previous post on the issue of our retention of tens in New Zealand and how we aren't giving them enough game time to develop them or retaining them for that matter.
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The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking. -
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks 2024:
@His-Bobness as you’ve pointed out - they’re building handy leads against what are the best teams in the world, which is surely a positive. So rather than having a go at Razor because you don’t like his style or what he stands for, what do you think are the reasons they’re falling away later in games? The coaching team control tactics and when the bench is introduced etc, but Razor’s not actually out there playing the game.
He picked the coaches and then the players, but it’s not his fault?
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
( yeah yeah, I remember the try against the Boks, what was the score in that game again ? )
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
Speaking of, Roigard will join the All Blacks this week as they prepare for the second Bled.
It's great that Ratima is playing so well because when Roigard does eventually come back he can ease back through minutes from the bench.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
Speaking of, Roigard will join the All Blacks this week as they prepare for the second Bled.
It's great that Ratima is playing so well because when Roigard does eventually come back he can ease back through minutes from the bench.
You took a minute to reply, is your internet lagging ?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
Speaking of, Roigard will join the All Blacks this week as they prepare for the second Bled.
It's great that Ratima is playing so well because when Roigard does eventually come back he can ease back through minutes from the bench.
You took a minute to reply, is your internet lagging ?
Yeah a bit, I've setup a notification system so whenever anyone mentions Roigard it pings.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
( yeah yeah, I remember the try against the Boks, what was the score in that game again ? )
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
I could possibly agree if Ngatai had performed for the ABs in the same manner as Roigard. You're well off with your comparison.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
( yeah yeah, I remember the try against the Boks, what was the score in that game again ? )
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
I could possibly agree if Ngatai had performed for the ABs in the same manner as Roigard. You're well off with your comparison.
I don't think it is overreaching to suggest that if Cam had played in the final we might have won out in Paris. He tore it up at RWC23
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At the end of the day, a team of talented individuals that is regularly going from the sublime to the absurd is a symptom of a poorly coached team. It reminds me of the Chiefs under Foster, or the Hurricanes of old who coined the marketing phrase "expect the unexpected " because nobody knew what fucking version of the Canes was going to show up. That's where we are at with the ABs right now.
I don't know what the story was with Schmidt exactly but NZR should have been moving mountains to get him to take the mantle. His international experience and success would have been invaluable to this group of players. I don't doubt Razor is trying hard, but he's clearly learning on the job right now.
We are in for more of the same until either Razor is replaced, or he hopefully figures out what is needed to beat the big boys in test footy. The former is looking the most likely right now, but time will tell.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
Speaking of, Roigard will join the All Blacks this week as they prepare for the second Bled.
It's great that Ratima is playing so well because when Roigard does eventually come back he can ease back through minutes from the bench.
There he is
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
Speaking of, Roigard will join the All Blacks this week as they prepare for the second Bled.
It's great that Ratima is playing so well because when Roigard does eventually come back he can ease back through minutes from the bench.
There he is
Mate, you’re a bit slow.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
Speaking of, Roigard will join the All Blacks this week as they prepare for the second Bled.
It's great that Ratima is playing so well because when Roigard does eventually come back he can ease back through minutes from the bench.
There he is
Mate, you’re a bit slow.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
Speaking of, Roigard will join the All Blacks this week as they prepare for the second Bled.
It's great that Ratima is playing so well because when Roigard does eventually come back he can ease back through minutes from the bench.
There he is
Mate, you’re a bit slow.
I was making a posh latte and watching KW advance too far down the pitch on sky.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The 2 late yellows smack of panic, trying too hard and lack of leadership.
I'm hoping guys like Sititi, Vaai and Roigard can bring ice cold nerves at the pointy end of the game.
Currently leadership is passive and people are panicking.I think we need to stop talking this guy up until he, you know, actually makes the field again in a Black jersey ?
( yeah yeah, I remember the try against the Boks, what was the score in that game again ? )
The last thing we need is another Charlie Ngatai.
I could possibly agree if Ngatai had performed for the ABs in the same manner as Roigard. You're well off with your comparison.
Good point.
Ngatai is Rugby Jesus. Roigard is merely a very good player.
I appreciate the feedback
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks 2024:
@His-Bobness as you’ve pointed out - they’re building handy leads against what are the best teams in the world, which is surely a positive. So rather than having a go at Razor because you don’t like his style or what he stands for, what do you think are the reasons they’re falling away later in games? The coaching team control tactics and when the bench is introduced etc, but Razor’s not actually out there playing the game.
He picked the coaches and then the players, but it’s not his fault?
No, my question was… if were able to run up points seemingly at will against the world’s best teams at the start of games (objectively a good thing, right?)… what factors are causing such a contrasting and catastrophic fall off in in performance in the final quarter, in particular?
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks 2024:
@His-Bobness as you’ve pointed out - they’re building handy leads against what are the best teams in the world, which is surely a positive. So rather than having a go at Razor because you don’t like his style or what he stands for, what do you think are the reasons they’re falling away later in games? The coaching team control tactics and when the bench is introduced etc, but Razor’s not actually out there playing the game.
He picked the coaches and then the players, but it’s not his fault?
No, my question was… if were able to run up points seemingly at will against the world’s best teams at the start of games (objectively a good thing, right?)… what factors are causing such a contrasting and catastrophic fall off in in performance in the final quarter, in particular?
There is a time to attack, there is a time to play the territory game and use scoreboard pressure to bury the opposition. We can play high percentage rugby right now, and our defence is soft in the middle