All Blacks 2024
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@Yeahtheboys said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….
Let's not panic yet. We lost a whole lot of leadership after RWC23 and it will take some time to rebuild. The coaching group haven't been perfect, hopefully they will learn from missteps quickly, especially in terms of selection
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Yeah we are not going to lose the Bledisloe ,short memories the Aussies got pumped by SA at home 33-7 and 30-12 with 2 different teams the Saffers fielded then Aussies had 60 points put on them by the Argies.
We lost 2 close games v SA in SA and could have won both ,a few panic merchants on here .
we have blooded a lot of players and are nearly 4 years away from a WC and some people are saying we won't get out of our pool at the WC.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations
I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
SA are the best side in the World ATM.
We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA. -
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild
To be Fair I probably did blast Foster but this is one hell of a year for your first year as coach EOYT that is daunting 2 tests v SA in SA.
But I am not happy by the results either or totally convinced on the coaching group atm.
Maybe I am just sick of the negative shit now.Mine included.things happen out here in the real world like terminal illness we all have to deal with maybe I just want to be positive from now on. -
@LatsToTheMax
I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like -
@kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@LatsToTheMax
I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are likeClarke is not the droid you’re looking for
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@LatsToTheMax
I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are likeClarke is not the droid you’re looking for
He's only just starting to play rest rugby well at wing! You could see Nonu had something early on, I don't see that with Clarke. If he can be a very good winger I'll be satisfied
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations
I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
SA are the best side in the World ATM.
We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.Am I recalling wrong or did you not defend Foster like this?
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild
It has. Like, I back every coach we have and I think things will improve once the selectors figure out what they want and who their best side is going forward, but the public and media Came down on Fozzie like a ton of bricks at any opportunity, yet every excuse under the sun is made for Razor and his team.
This will be a great season for bringing Razor down a peg or 2 as well. Enough of these stupid 3 part docos on how great he is, parading around like a drunk idiot at the annual black clash, having everyone telling him how wonderful he is, picking and choosing what rep teams he wants to coach, hiding in SR when in all honesty, he outgrew the comp after about 3-4 seasons and I personally would have liked to have seen him take up another challenge before considering the ABs gig, his answer of 'I don't need to learn overseas, I already did my time over there as a player' something along those lines was of a concern to me, suggested he was too good for that sort of challenge etc. etc. He's also being a bit of a smart arse with his answers now that things aren't all going his way. He's only used to having everything in his favour and asked easy positive questions by the media.
I believe he'll get there eventually and deserves year 2 at least to find the right team and style, but I also think he was a bit smug and thought it would be a lot easier than it has been despite the warnings from Jeff Wilson and the 1% of the public that didn't grease up to him.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.
This isn’t aimed at you in particular but it’s a prime example so don’t take this the wrong way.
I don’t think I ever saw these kind of excuses for Foster and poor performances. It’s funny how things change when it suits someone’s narrative lol
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Regarding the media stuff, it’ll be interesting to see how he copes with the English & Irish rugby media later in the year. They’ll ask aggressive questions and will be quite happy to make him a villain if he keeps giving smart arse answers
It’s a bit different than having friendly chats with Knowler etc
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations
I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
SA are the best side in the World ATM.
We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.Am I recalling wrong or did you not defend Foster like this?
You recall wrongly I never defended Foster as you well know.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations
I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
SA are the best side in the World ATM.
We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.Am I recalling wrong or did you not defend Foster like this?
You recall wrongly I never defended Foster as you well know.
That's what I was asking. Seems rather two faced then.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
Regarding the media stuff, it’ll be interesting to see how he copes with the English & Irish rugby media later in the year. They’ll ask aggressive questions and will be quite happy to make him a villain if he keeps giving smart arse answers
It’s a bit different than having friendly chats with Knowler etc
I agree. Obviously he can do no wrong in our publics eyes, but they don't give a shit about him. I recall Mitchell and Thorne having a frost relationship with the media, difference was back then is they also got heavily criticized if things weren't going well, by media and public.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations
I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
SA are the best side in the World ATM.
We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.Am I recalling wrong or did you not defend Foster like this?
You recall wrongly I never defended Foster as you well know.
That's what I was asking. Seems rather two faced then.
Take it anyway you like I don’t give a fuck.
