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    stodders
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    @Jet things weren’t brilliant in 2004 when Henry took over. 2004 EOYT saw a changing of the guard and the emergence of the playing style that defined NZ during the purple patch of 2005-2017.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

    Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

    No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
    He deserves his chance at 15.

    BBs contracted to 2027 isn't he

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    We had a gem in Nonu. Not tall but solid AF and had wheels. CC is built similar. I know he's our 11 right now but could he be an option with JB and AJLam in the future?

    I still think Tele'a is a right wing.

    We are so damn close. We bossed them again on attack for 50 mins.

    WJ is not going to have a blinder every test but he had zero impact at all. WT looked good.

    Again just some baffling calls by the refs but AGAIN, we have to acknowledge that the pictures we are painting aren't in the refs favour and we need to take them out of the game.

    I refuse to believe we are worse than the Wallabies and Argies right now.

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    @BerniesCorner
    I mean in terms of playing ability.

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    What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

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    @Yeahtheboys said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

    Let's not panic yet. We lost a whole lot of leadership after RWC23 and it will take some time to rebuild. The coaching group haven't been perfect, hopefully they will learn from missteps quickly, especially in terms of selection

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    Yeah we are not going to lose the Bledisloe ,short memories the Aussies got pumped by SA at home 33-7 and 30-12 with 2 different teams the Saffers fielded then Aussies had 60 points put on them by the Argies.
    We lost 2 close games v SA in SA and could have won both ,a few panic merchants on here .
    we have blooded a lot of players and are nearly 4 years away from a WC and some people are saying we won't get out of our pool at the WC.
    Calm done take a pill and sort your shit out.

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    @Chris

    Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by Chris
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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris

    Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
    SA are the best side in the World ATM.
    We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
    The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

    How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by Chris
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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

    How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

    To be Fair I probably did blast Foster but this is one hell of a year for your first year as coach EOYT that is daunting 2 tests v SA in SA.
    But I am not happy by the results either or totally convinced on the coaching group atm.
    Maybe I am just sick of the negative shit now.Mine included.things happen out here in the real world like terminal illness we all have to deal with maybe I just want to be positive from now on.

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    replied to LatsToTheMax on last edited by
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    @LatsToTheMax
    I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
    Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

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    Well I think moving forward the backline is pretty obvious...

    9 Roigard
    10 Garden-Bachop
    11 Umaga-Jensen
    12 Higgins
    13 Proctor
    14 Tjay Clarke
    15 Love

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    @kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    @LatsToTheMax
    I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
    Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

    Clarke is not the droid you’re looking for

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    Further out, Sititi at 8 and Lakai at 7 gives plenty of ball running power and then perhaps Suafoa or some other big munter at 6.

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    replied to MiketheSnow on last edited by canefan
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    @MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    @kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    @LatsToTheMax
    I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
    Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

    Clarke is not the droid you’re looking for

    He's only just starting to play rest rugby well at wing! You could see Nonu had something early on, I don't see that with Clarke. If he can be a very good winger I'll be satisfied

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris

    Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
    SA are the best side in the World ATM.
    We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
    The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

    Am I recalling wrong or did you not defend Foster like this?

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    What the fuck is up with the kicking?

    We know we have good kickers in the side, we've seen them do it.

    Why is DMac taking a shot at goal from 60 when his range is 40? Why do we make so little ground when kicking for touch?

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

    How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

    It has. Like, I back every coach we have and I think things will improve once the selectors figure out what they want and who their best side is going forward, but the public and media Came down on Fozzie like a ton of bricks at any opportunity, yet every excuse under the sun is made for Razor and his team.

    This will be a great season for bringing Razor down a peg or 2 as well. Enough of these stupid 3 part docos on how great he is, parading around like a drunk idiot at the annual black clash, having everyone telling him how wonderful he is, picking and choosing what rep teams he wants to coach, hiding in SR when in all honesty, he outgrew the comp after about 3-4 seasons and I personally would have liked to have seen him take up another challenge before considering the ABs gig, his answer of 'I don't need to learn overseas, I already did my time over there as a player' something along those lines was of a concern to me, suggested he was too good for that sort of challenge etc. etc. He's also being a bit of a smart arse with his answers now that things aren't all going his way. He's only used to having everything in his favour and asked easy positive questions by the media.

    I believe he'll get there eventually and deserves year 2 at least to find the right team and style, but I also think he was a bit smug and thought it would be a lot easier than it has been despite the warnings from Jeff Wilson and the 1% of the public that didn't grease up to him.

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    replied to Jet on last edited by Landers92
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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

    But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.

    This isn’t aimed at you in particular but it’s a prime example so don’t take this the wrong way.

    I don’t think I ever saw these kind of excuses for Foster and poor performances. It’s funny how things change when it suits someone’s narrative lol

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