All Blacks 2024
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2024/2025 AB backline
Roigard - An other - An other- JB - Proctor - An other - Love -
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
2024/2025 AB backline
Roigard - An other - An other- JB - Proctor - An other - LoveWe all know if we want to win World Cups we have to have at least 4 Hurricanes in the backline.
2011 - 9. Weepu 12. Nonu 13. Smith 14. Jane
2015 - 11. Savea 12. Nonu 13. Smith 14. Milner-Skudder
2027 - 9. Roigard 12. Barrett 13. Proctor 15. Love -
There he is !!!
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2024:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:
A couple of points which seems to be an overall trend of the AB's rather than game specific comments.
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Our attack is ok, we're scoring more than enough points to win games, I'm getting increasingly annoyed at the commentary that "We had chances to put away the game (i.e. score more points), but didn't take them". We shipped 38 against the Argies, and 31 against SA. If the thought is that if we just simply score 50 points a game and we will win, well goodness me - that's not smart or realistic thinking in the slightest. Which leads us into...
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Our defence and disclipline has cost us badly, our poor disclipline has lead to us playing a lot of the game in the crunch moments in our own half. Our goal-line defence off the pick and go close to the line in particular has been awful, what makes this worse is that bashing the ball in close to the line is a low risk attacking method. We aren't asking teams to take chances or use high-risk plays to score points because they can bash through us playing low risk rugby This has to be fixed immediately or we will continue to lose games.
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Our bench as a whole, quite simply has been dreadful. The quibble isn't even the fact that they're coming on and having no impact but the fact that they're making things CONSIDERABLY WORSE when they get onto the field. It's very odd because if you look at the players they are all "impact" players.
Whether it's because they can't fit into the systems (player issue), or know the systems so they can fit in (coaching issue) or simpy dion't have the skills or temprement to fit into the game plan and execute (player and coaching issue) I really don't know. What I do know however is that when it comes to the use of the bench we are being outsmarted tatcially and executionally and ultimately that falls on the coachs.
So it's defence and the last 20 minutes of the game that are costing us dearly and we won't start a winning trend until we fix these.
Sounds like Wales
Ooh, that cuts deep.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
For a bloke who's played 3 Tests, started 1, and scored a solo try in the dying moments against a Bokke team physically knackered from giving the AB's an absolute thumping in essentially a exhibition match, Roigard sure seems to have morphed into an absolute AB legend capable of singe-handedly turning around the AB's fortunes.........
Terrific potential though.
Ive seen enough already. 4 tries at the world cup, the 60 meter job against SA and was playing super rugby like it was in slow motion until his injury. Massive left boot too.
Generational talent.
Christ that’s more foresight than Nostradamus
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@Jet what a nightmare if I’m a forward. No way I can drift off him. Deceptively quick off the mark and so powerful Through the hips. He is definitely a problem for defenses and his mere presence creates opportunities. That’s such a get with defenses today.
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@Boston-Boy said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet what a nightmare if I’m a forward. No way I can drift off him. Deceptively quick off the mark and so powerful Through the hips. He is definitely a problem for defenses and his mere presence creates opportunities. That’s such a get with defenses today.
Can't wait until he's back, I hope he's close to 100%
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@canefan there was talk he might be ready for the end of year tour which would be great. I kind of hope they take Sotutu to have a good look too. It would be good to see him tested in test footy.
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@Boston-Boy said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan there was talk he might be ready for the end of year tour which would be great. I kind of hope they take Sotutu to have a good look too. It would be good to see him tested in test footy.
Yeah I hope the door isn't closed for Sotutu. Based on performance, things should be wide open for places
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@canefan I wish Iose was bigger, cause he’s a good 8 too. Regarding Sotutu, his tackle stats, number of runs was down on Satitis, Jacobson and others but his try assists, try’s and line break assists were the best of the lot. He also provides a jumper at line out time, more size in maul defense. I think with an attacking ABs side he will add xfactor. You surround him with your hard workers.
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@Boston-Boy said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan I wish Iose was bigger, cause he’s a good 8 too. Regarding Sotutu, his tackle stats, number of runs was down on Satitis, Jacobson and others but his try assists, try’s and line break assists were the best of the lot. He also provides a jumper at line out time, more size in maul defense. I think with an attacking ABs side he will add xfactor. You surround him with your hard workers.
The numbers can be misleading as well. If they see he's got work ons, what better place to do that but in ABs camp on a three week long tour? He's not a project player, I assume they just want him to polish up some areas
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
All the talk of Roigard I just hope he comes back well from that nasty injury, some players never come back the same they lose pace and flexibility from that injury or take a long time to reach their pre injury form.
I don't want him rushed back. Let him rehab properly because we need him for the longterm
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
All the talk of Roigard I just hope he comes back well from that nasty injury, some players never come back the same they lose pace and flexibility from that injury or take a long time to reach their pre injury form.
He's looking pretty good fellas. Likely a return for Counties at the back-end of the NPC.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
All the talk of Roigard I just hope he comes back well from that nasty injury, some players never come back the same they lose pace and flexibility from that injury or take a long time to reach their pre injury form.
He has a channel on Insta that he is posting his rehab and recovery on, posts updates every couple of days, looking good!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
For a bloke who's played 3 Tests, started 1, and scored a solo try in the dying moments against a Bokke team physically knackered from giving the AB's an absolute thumping in essentially a exhibition match, Roigard sure seems to have morphed into an absolute AB legend capable of singe-handedly turning around the AB's fortunes.........
Terrific potential though.
Almost reached the heights of Ngatai
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@Boston-Boy said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan I wish Iose was bigger, cause he’s a good 8 too. Regarding Sotutu, his tackle stats, number of runs was down on Satitis, Jacobson and others but his try assists, try’s and line break assists were the best of the lot. He also provides a jumper at line out time, more size in maul defense. I think with an attacking ABs side he will add xfactor. You surround him with your hard workers.
For me, the team either needs to adopt a 6-2 split, or use the tactic of shifting Scott Barrett to the blindside in the end game, as they have used in previous seasons. If Papali’i and Barrett on the flanks it adds lineout presence and physicality at the right time in the game. I think adding Darry at the same time accentuates this advantage.
Other players that should be considered as impact subs include Sititi, possibly Luke Jacobson and Pasilio Tosi at prop.
Either way, the bench strategy needs to be revised.
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:
use the tactic of shifting Scott Barrett to the blindside in the end game,
I like that.
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A big problem is how slow our loosies are, and the answer is to move a guy there who was too slow 5 years ago?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
A big problem is how slow our loosies are, and the answer is to move a guy there who was too slow 5 years ago?
yes yes, but he's slow and tall! And reasonably powerful.
