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    #64

    So who are the coaching group now and what are they are each responsible for?

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    It won't happen until they have a meeting about when the meeting to decide if they will have a meeting to reallocate the positions of responsibility is to be held.

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    #66

    @sparky
    Herald said - Hansen, Ellison and Holland could play MacDonald's role. But I think they were naming possibilities rather than saying all three will do it.

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    @booboo said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @taniwharugby

    Robbie Deans?

    Didn't play for Waikato. Mitch anyone?

    John Boe!

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    Anyone remember a few weeks ago what I was saying about this Leon McDonald situation? I can’t remember what thread it was in, maybe AB’s 2024. I wasn’t just saying stuff for the sake of it after all… 👀

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    @Landers92 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Anyone remember a few weeks ago what I was saying about this Leon McDonald situation? I can’t remember what thread it was in, maybe AB’s 2024. I wasn’t just saying stuff for the sake of it after all… 👀

    I can barely remember stuff I said a few hours ago, let alone stuff you said a few weeks ago

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    @voodoo funnily enough, same. Only the important things, eg stuff regarding sport but nothing the Mrs tells me.

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    @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    A few random thoughts at 02:45.

    1. Big news.

    2. This has happened mighty close to the South Africa games.

    3. My gut instinct is to welcome this news. There have been too many voices in the AB camp and the performance against Argentina in Wellington was horribly disjointed. Mac Donald hardly excelled with the Blues.

    4. Did anyone see this coming?

    5. Anyone got any oil on what's happened?

    1. Jealous of MacDonald's guns?
      They were peers and team mates for a good while so maybe MacDonald wasn't good at taking orders? Or maybe Razor evaluated performances, deemed them substandard and pulled the trigger. Wish Henry and co had done that with Foster.
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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Wish Henry and co had done that with Foster.

    Wish Foster had done that earlier with Plumtree and Mooar.
    He was never a proactive guy.

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    @taniwharugby said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @WillieTheWaiter Scott McLeod making a comeback?

    Hell no

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    #74

    Just throwing my two cents out there.

    I remember Razor made a relevant point in the recent documentary how he and Leon approached the game differently, he was saying how he tends to look for 'what could go right' whereas Leon tends to look for 'what could go wrong'.

    I think it comes down to their mindset. Razor is an optimist by nature and risk-taking individual while Leon's coaching and selections have always tended to be conservative and low-risk in nature - see his Blues tenure.

    Leon is conventional and coaches more by the book while Razor is the opposite of that, he's more of an unshackled unorthodox free-spirited individual Lol.... maybe Razor is right into that new age stuff?

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    #75

    "Hey Vern, Razor here. Have you got any plans for the next couple of weeks....?"

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    #76

    Position now vacant in the 50 coaches for the ABs
    Raygun enters the chat, open for work, break dancing duo to debut post tri nations

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    #77

    Haven’t read the whole thread so excuse if it’s been covered, who is the defense coach? Was it McDonald ?

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    #78

    Gut instinct says they had too many coaches so no need to replace Leon

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    @W32 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Haven’t read the whole thread so excuse if it’s been covered, who is the defense coach? Was it McDonald ?

    Scott Hansen I believe is defence coach

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    #80

    Interesting watching the Razor interview.
    Sounded like someone announcing a divorce.
    Not about selections, just different coaching philosophies. They are not aligned apparently.
    I guess we have to wait for one of them to write a book to possibly find out.

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    #81

    Razor and Leon always seemed like very philosophically different coaches to me, I'm honestly more surprised they were still so intent on working together after 4 years forging different paths in SR, especially after Leon originally parted ways with Razor after just 1 season at the Crusaders. Thoughts @Chris?

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    These were the official job descriptions:

    Scott Roberston (Head Coach)
    Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
    Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
    Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
    Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
    Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
    Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

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    I really haven't liked our attacking shape

    And it's reminded me in a bad way of a lot of the Blues attack under Leon.

    Hopefully we see a change in how we attack now.

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