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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Read even started as a 6 despite being more a number 8. Messam too played at number 8 early on despite being more a blindside.

    I was going to ask a Cantab this. Didn't Read actually play as a 6 in his first Crusader season then got moved into 8 with an eye for the ABs, or is my memory faulty?

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I'm surprised Lord is still there, didn't really notice him last game.

    Who would you select to replace him?

    Give Walker-Leawere a shot. Why not?

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    @Bones

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I'm surprised Lord is still there, didn't really notice him last game.

    Who would you select to replace him?

    Give Walker-Leawere a shot. Why not?

    Cam Suafoa at 6 over Blackadder. Why not?

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I'm surprised Lord is still there, didn't really notice him last game.

    Who would you select to replace him?

    That's a good question, I don't have a good answer.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I'm surprised Lord is still there, didn't really notice him last game.

    Who would you select to replace him?

    Give Walker-Leawere a shot. Why not?

    Noooooo

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    Lord has the physical dimensions and sure he’s still a young pup but I think they’ll persist with him at least whilst he’s fit and there are injuries to two frontline locks.

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    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bones

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I'm surprised Lord is still there, didn't really notice him last game.

    Who would you select to replace him?

    Give Walker-Leawere a shot. Why not?

    Cam Suafoa at 6 over Blackadder. Why not?

    Was Suafoa called into the squad?

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    The backrow have all been 7's and the backline 10-15 are all historically outside backs. 😂

    Where have the specialists gone?

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    The Argentinians will be gunning for this one. There's history in the making.
    If we don't have a good first half I'd like to see Ratima come out at the beginning of the second half.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    My takeaways from the starting XV.

    I like the balance of the wingers better than Telea and Reece. Clarke and Jordan offer the Julian Savea/Ben Smith type balance.

    Would you not start Ofa at loose head considering he’s been playing and Tamaiti hasn’t? Or are we just are just going throw another crusader straight into the starting xv who hasn’t played a lot of minutes at all this year….. not a shock. Thought having experience on the field would be a big thing in this game seeing as they harp on about how you can’t replace experience.

    Shocked TJP is still starting, would prefer Ratima but I guess this is his chance to step up as a leader and prove why he should still be in the 23.

    A shame De Groot has hurt his neck. Hope it isn’t serious.

    I supect they've lessoned a learning -- better to have old heads on at end.

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    @Jet N.B. I already have Fern dibs on Danish quote in respect of TWM. You can happily have milquetoast.

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    For me only one real question from team: what exactly is the status of Finau? Not playing Fiji was uncontroversial, and selected in TRC squad. Why not sighted since?? When Raz asked in PC after Puma I announcement, he merely said, 'He wasn't selected' and clearly didn't want to discuss.

    Other than EDG injury the 23 was entirely as expected.

    The problem is that TWM are paying the price for extremely poor TRC squad selection.

    No real gimme matches so all 36 needed to be able to come on for last 15 when heat on.

    Bell, Sititi and Hotham ought to have been kept for EOYTs, either for ABs or XV.

    The obvious experienced players were Ricatelli, Akira/Hoskins and Christie.

    All of whom would have been real chances to be in 23 for Saturday had they been in squad.

    The selected ones may be seen by TWM as having higher ceilings, but even if that is so, this isn't Super where periods of lessons can be accomodated.

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    So maybe the plan is to move Barrett/Vaai to 6 once the locks are all fit? Hence not bothering to invest in a blindside and making sure Blackadder gets in plenty of time in all positions for his move to the bench.

    Ace.

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    @Bones Well, if we assume Holland comes in next year, lock will be quite crowded.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bones Well, if we assume Holland comes in next year, lock will be quite crowded.

    Can they bring Fabian Holland as a pre eligibility apprentice on EOYT, just to train with the team or is that forbidden?

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    @Jet anything goes with XVs?

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Jet anything goes with XVs?

    Good question. Im not sure.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Lord has the physical dimensions and sure he’s still a young pup but I think they’ll persist with him at least whilst he’s fit and there are injuries to two frontline locks.

    The key physical dimension he doesn't have is a weight of 125 kegs.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Lord has the physical dimensions and sure he’s still a young pup but I think they’ll persist with him at least whilst he’s fit and there are injuries to two frontline locks.

    The key physical dimension he doesn't have is a weight of 125 kegs.

    Whenever he's actually been able to string games together I've been impressed though, he definitely plays above his apparent weight. Whitelock seemed a bit of a lightweight to start with too.

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    @Bones that was before he met BBBT

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