All Blacks v Argentina II
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I also think ALB played pretty damm well and deserves another chance. I notice Ioane came on as a sub and did precicely nothing at all the entire time he was on the field.
Not sure RI had any chances to do anything
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Caught out badly for pace and positioning on D for two tries.
yep. And could'nt recover.
Could have been pattern to have him shoot up, but it didn't work and looked horrific
It was turnover ball and he was waving his arms in midfield like a lad marshalling a 737 onto stand. Then when they went inside him it looked like he was running in treacle trying to chase back.
I think what we are all getting sucked into this new philosophy of “I don’t think X did too badly”. Not doing too badly isn’t good enough.
This is the fucking Allblacks.
You need to be stellar
There are much better players out there who only got 20,30,40 caps and were put out to pasture.
ALB is two seasons away from being a centurion. And he has done fuck all. I was sick of him in 2019. We have gone through a pandemic , a Russian invasion and a presidential assassination since then, and he is still here and still mediocre.
Get him gone for fuck sake.
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@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Caught out badly for pace and positioning on D for two tries.
The first one and the tap back from Reece.
Riekos pace papers over a lot of cracks.
Personally I think ALB will be catnip for the Springboks.
Fair enough insights, yes getting done for pace in the midfield is never a good look.
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Caught out badly for pace and positioning on D for two tries.
The first one and the tap back from Reece.
Riekos pace papers over a lot of cracks.
Personally I think ALB will be catnip for the Springboks.
Fair enough insights, yes getting done for pace in the midfield is never a good look.
Im not having a pop at you by the way just pointing out that we all seem to be more acceptant of “ah he was grand” “ah he gave it a go”. The malaise is even seeping into the fans psyches too. We aren’t even angry any more. Sooialo was ran out of town after Rustenburg. Ben Blair got one tour and was ushered out the back door. Lauaki had a nightmare cameo where he threw a a game with a comedy of errors. That was the end of him.
We seem to be really reticent to give new kids on the block a chance too. When did we become so meek. If you’re good enough you are old enough. The likes of Beaudy and Ardie need benching not just as a message to them but as a message to everyone else. There is a new sheriff in town and first he will get rid of the unwilling . Then he will get rid of the unable.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Some good stuff in here but I wish they'd cut out the corporate management speak
Synergies
EngagementThey are fucking insufferable.
Honestly, the documentaries and books (“legacy”) and sweeping the dressing room and no dickheads policy has gone to their heads.
“Good people make good Allblacks”
Good rugby players make good Allblacks you clowns.
We could do with a few dickheads in the team and in the coaching box if you ask me.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Some good stuff in here but I wish they'd cut out the corporate management speak
Synergies
EngagementI tell you what, once we put all this stuff we have learnt over the last few years into practice we are going to be unstoppable !
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@Unite said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Some good stuff in here but I wish they'd cut out the corporate management speak
Synergies
EngagementI tell you what, once we put all this stuff we have learnt over the last few years into practice we are going to be unstoppable !
You know what really teaches players to learn that what they did wasn’t up to scratch.
Dropping them.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I'd like to see the captain and vice captain have a serious response this week and lead from the front this week.
I'd like to see them lead from the bench, at best.
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Saveas time is done for me his work rate is poor now he floats in and out of the game too much.
His captaincy is just not there under pressure we have nothing from the Captain.
TJ is done as well. We need the young HBs in, both are running threats which we need.
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I didn't watch as I had a 50th - and I haven't watched the replay yet. So having scrolled this thread for about 12 minutes, I feel perfectly placed to select a team for redemption.
You're welcome.
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Darry
- Vaii (50/50 with Patrick)
- Finau
- Cane (or Paps, I don't really care)
- Ardie (hooked for Sititi early if not playing out of his skin)
- Ratima
- Dmac
- Clarke
- ALB
- Ioane
- Jordan
- Jordie B (yes sir)
Happy to have helped out guys, see you in a week.
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Watched the Scott Hansen interview.
I am not going to say - “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” -yet, but he doesn't give me that good down to earth feeling like say, Vern Cotter did. Too slick, too corporate, and too cocky. Apparently, it's all about "opportunities".What happened to just saying we screwed up and we feel ashamed?
There's too many coaches in this team, two of which (MacDonald and Holland) have no record to stand on to lay claim to be in the set up in the first place. This is reflected in the disjointed game plan.
And since Razor loves his assistants - perhaps we hire a how to exit out of our own half coach.
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Watched the Soctt Hansen interview.
I am not going to say - “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” -yet, but he doesn't give me that good down to earth feeling like say, Vern Cotter did. Too slick, too corporate, and too cocky. Apparently, it's all abpit "opportunities".What happened to just saying we screwed up and we feel ashamed?
There's too many coaches in this team, two of which (MacDonald and Holland) have no record to stand on to lay claim to be in the set up in the first place. This is reflected in the disjointed game plan.
And since Razor loves his assistants - perhaps we hire a how to exit out of our own half coach.
Hansen is a top bloke and a very smart coach he master minded a lot of the plans to combat teams in the Crusaders title play off games.
I had a lot to with Scott at club level down to earth dude. -
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Watched the Soctt Hansen interview.
I am not going to say - “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” -yet, but he doesn't give me that good down to earth feeling like say, Vern Cotter did. Too slick, too corporate, and too cocky. Apparently, it's all abpit "opportunities".What happened to just saying we screwed up and we feel ashamed?
There's too many coaches in this team, two of which (MacDonald and Holland) have no record to stand on to lay claim to be in the set up in the first place. This is reflected in the disjointed game plan.
And since Razor loves his assistants - perhaps we hire a how to exit out of our own half coach.
Hansen is a top bloke and a very smart coach he master minded a lot of the plans to combat teams in the Crusaders title play off games.
I had a lot to with Scott at club level down to earth dude.Perceptions vary I guess.
I don't like the language he uses.
It's not straight-forward enough.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Saveas time is done for me his work rate is poor now he floats in and out of the game too much.
He came back and has been playing Japan level rugby while the form 8 of the comp is twiddling his thumbs at NPC.
His captaincy is just not there under pressure we have nothing from the Captain.
And yet no one in the fawning media asked a hard question about his AWOL captaincy. Put him on the bench where he belongs if they're honest about seeking game breaking impact.
TJ is done as well. We need the young HBs in, both are running threats which we need.
Yes. Thanks for your years of service, great to see you come back from horrific injury. Off you pop now.
I hope we see some hard selections being made this week.
If Clarke doesn't get on the field I despair.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Saveas time is done for me his work rate is poor now he floats in and out of the game too much.
He came back and has been playing Japan level rugby while the form 8 of the comp is twiddling his thumbs at NPC.
His captaincy is just not there under pressure we have nothing from the Captain.
And yet no one in the fawning media asked a hard question about his AWOL captaincy. Put him on the bench where he belongs if they're honest about seeking game braking impact.
TJ is done as well. We need the young HBs in, both are running threats which we need.
Yes. Thanks for your years of service, great to see you come back from horrif injury. Off you pop now.
I hope we see some hard selections being made this week.
If Clarke doesn't get on the field I despair.
Yeah that sums it up really well for me.
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Watched the Soctt Hansen interview.
I am not going to say - “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” -yet, but he doesn't give me that good down to earth feeling like say, Vern Cotter did. Too slick, too corporate, and too cocky. Apparently, it's all abpit "opportunities".What happened to just saying we screwed up and we feel ashamed?
There's too many coaches in this team, two of which (MacDonald and Holland) have no record to stand on to lay claim to be in the set up in the first place. This is reflected in the disjointed game plan.
And since Razor loves his assistants - perhaps we hire a how to exit out of our own half coach.
Hansen is a top bloke and a very smart coach he master minded a lot of the plans to combat teams in the Crusaders title play off games.
I had a lot to with Scott at club level down to earth dude.Perceptions vary I guess.
I don't like the language he uses.
It's not straight-forward enough.
Ultimately, we'll judge him by his results.He is very analytical type deep thinker understands the game very well.
If you sat down and talked rugby with him you would see.
