All Blacks vs Argentina I
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Winger. He certainly has blues bias
ummmm
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quibbling over selections aside, we should expect a decent performance this weekend, and an idea about what the 2024 ABs look like.
6-7 weeks in camp together. 4th game. A host of seasoned players available. No real excuses not to show us something.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Are any of you guys Ken who texts into SeNz. I’m picking Kirwan or Winger. He certainly has blues bias and no idea.
Kirwan is diehard Blues but doubt he would waste his time on talkback when he can waste his time here.
Winger is just anti anything to do with Crusaders, Canterbury and all that is good in the world.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
quibbling over selections aside, we should expect a decent performance this weekend, and an idea about what the 2024 ABs look like.
6-7 weeks in camp together. 4th game. A host of seasoned players available. No real excuses not to show us something.
Iguess the biggest, unavoidable to the coaches, issue is lock. Two of last years top 3 goneburgers, the other one injured, and next experienced cab of the rank also injured. You gotta hope the noobs take the opportunity like the nines did.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
quibbling over selections aside, we should expect a decent performance this weekend, and an idea about what the 2024 ABs look like.
6-7 weeks in camp together. 4th game. A host of seasoned players available. No real excuses not to show us something.
Like restarts, exits and defeating a rush defence...
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
quibbling over selections aside, we should expect a decent performance this weekend, and an idea about what the 2024 ABs look like.
6-7 weeks in camp together. 4th game. A host of seasoned players available. No real excuses not to show us something.
Like restarts, exits and defeating a rush defence...
And lineout
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Looking forward to seeing how Darry goes, promising debut. Not looking forward to seeing Blackadder covering lock when Lord gets injured sitting on the bench.
Hoping Beauds continues his upward curve and Jordan doesn't get exposed even worse at fullback than he did on the wing.
Interested to see how this midfield works.
And fingers crossed Telea and Perenara get back to early season form.
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Wow, with the responses on here you'd think we were still in the Foster era...
Fact is that these two Tests against Argentina are the easiest of the Rugby Championships and the selectors will use them to finesse their first-choice team for the rest of the year.
Tight five picks itself, given injuries to Barrett and Tuipulotu, and Aumua'a comparative advantage off the bench compared to Taylor.
Papali'i and (a slightly out of form) Savea are largely locked in at 7 and 8 - though I think Cane is still the better 7 than Papali'i but is heading off next year. Still wouldn't be hugely surprised to see him get minutes against Argentina and SA. At 6, it's a straight choice between Blackadder and Finau, given Jacobson's injury. Blackadder gets a run there this week but I assume Finau will get a crack next week and then whoever's the better performer of the two will likely start in SA.
Perenara is a baffling selection but it was always likely to be a combo of him and Ratima. Would still prefer Ratima to start.
ALB has been in great form over the last 12 months and he's been well and truly deserving of a run outside Jordie Barrett for a long time now. He and Proctor play a very similar game and are in similar form but with the team slightly down on experience, I'm pleased to see ALB in the side.
Tele'a hasn't had the best start to the year but and as some have alluded to this week, this could be his last chance to prove he should be starting on (either) wing, with Clarke probably the best choice at 11. I expect Clarke to get that jersey from next week, with Tele'a, Reece and Jordan largely fighting it out for the right wing spot.
The selectors haven't made any indication that this is the top (available) XV. We'll see that team line up against SA. For now, I'm pretty happy with the one selected - especially without knowing who they'll run out next weekend.
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Jeysus some of the doom and gloom on here is doing my head in. 3/3
The coaches have recognised the issues at 6/13 and are working on it. They are saying 6 needs a higher work rate and 13 needs to distribute.
A lot to be happy about:
Vaai and Darry have shown some real steel. Building depth there.
Forward bench is strong. Aumua and Sititi are real weapons.
Back bench is strong Ratima- Ioane - Jordan are gamebreakers.When the SA game comes along I see Ratima starting, Proctor or Alb at 13.
I like Reiko but more suited to winger in my mind.
I'd pick fast wingers so that means Reiko, Clarke or Jordan.
When Sititi comes on I hope he goes to 8 and Savea to 6.
Big moment for Blackadder even career defining has to stay fit.You don't see much criticism of DMac on here now. Has cut out the high risk plays and is a fantastic player.
Looking good across the ditch. Schmidt working his magic. Sold out game v SA.
Interest piquing for the Bledisloe. Has to be a good thing -
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The Blackadder selection becomes a bit more baffling when you try to figure out what he offers over Cane.
Not much, other than he’s a Crusader.
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Cool to see the All Blacks helping prepare the Wellington Lions at the stadium today.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I reckon the Blues pack would probably beat up that AB 8.
Fucking Perenara I am sick of.
Kinda bizarre selections where it is hard to see any consistency in what they are trying to achieve.
Good to see the form midfielder rewarded with a spot at leastOfa/Riccatelli/Renata/Paddy/Darry/Paps/Akira/Hoss vs
EDG/Taylor/Lomax/Scooter//Vaa’i/Cane/Blackadder/RDRoNZ would rule in scrums but wouldn’t get much ball elsewhere?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Razor continues to have a massive horn for Blackadder. That's all very well but it's time for him to show everyone why now
it's not just Razor. The last group did everything they could to get him involved as well. I wish someone would tell us what we are missing.
Since you asked... and to post some documented stuff.
Ethan has a massive motor.
Best Bronco times:
McCaw: 4.30
Blackadder 4.32 (4.34 in the article below but there's a podcast where he says 4.32)
Papalià 4.45That's pretty good for a guy who's probably slightly bigger than Richie - and will be playing 6.
Watch: Cam Roigard impresses after blitzing All Blacks' pre-season Bronco
Rising star Cam Roigard has drawn level with playmaker Beauden Barrett in the pre-season Bronco.
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Your point about turning 30 doesn’t really hold weight with Blackadder.
Normally, it’s because of too much rugby and you can’t accuse Blackadder of that.
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This thread
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I reckon the Blues pack would probably beat up that AB 8.
Fucking Perenara I am sick of.
Kinda bizarre selections where it is hard to see any consistency in what they are trying to achieve.
Good to see the form midfielder rewarded with a spot at leastOfa/Riccatelli/Renata/Paddy/Darry/Paps/Akira/Hoss vs
EDG/Taylor/Lomax/Scooter//Vaa’i/Cane/Blackadder/RDRoNZ would rule in scrums but wouldn’t get much ball elsewhere?
That's remarkably similar to the Blues pack that got beat up by this Crusaders pack during Super Rugby this year...
