All Blacks vs England 2
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
So what do they do Fiji?
Adjust to playing in 25 degree heat.
Is it that hot in San Diego atm
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All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
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Interesting isn't it. We didn't pick the obvious stand-out #8 in NZ this year in the squad.
The walk-up starter has been various shades of average the first 2 weeks. In a high profile environment he should be looking over his shoulder. Instead he probably gets the Fiji game off and a guaranteed shirt v South Africa -
@fcc said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:
We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.
This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.
Perofeta clearly screwed up, put himself under pressure and used his footwork to get out of it. It had nothing to do with the game plan, it was all skill execution and pressure. Plan A would have been to kick it.
I used it as an example us playing too much in our 22, and even our own half. Do you disagree we went out to run it?
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So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:
- An inability to exit.
- Aimless, uncontested kicking.
- No way around the rush defence.
- Our own defence is porous on the edges.
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:
- An inability to exit.
- Aimless, uncontested kicking.
- No way around the rush defence.
- Our own defence is porous on the edges.
All we can hope is this coaching group have enough intelligence to admit their failings and actually do something about it.
I think if anything we have gone backwards from the Schmidt WC style that got us into the final.
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@Machpants I think 3 is a little low. Taylor was one of, if not the best All Black on defence. Lineout was a shambles, but not solely to blame. Did give away that dumb penalty, but he carried well, so a real mixed game.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.
He had a fucking good game considering what he was given. Couple of hard carries, some good defence as well.
Right before he got substituted he had two men outside him in space and didnt give the pass. A few minutes later DMac had a similar option, draw and pass with BB setting up Telea for try. Not saying that he gets dropped, but setting up his outsides and passing is his Achilles heal. Needs to be better at it. Coaches need to work on him.
Telea on the other hand has some limitations. Sevu is similar, faster and more effective.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5
Did I watch a different game?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5
Did I watch a different game?
Google random number generator.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test
Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
I didn't say ten, just he should have the highest score, he wins it for us
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Hats off England, they were the better team for 80% of the game, they can play!
Taking my AB glasses off, it was one hell of a contest.
Some serious issues for the AB’s to iron out though, obvious two being the lineout and the exit plays/kicks. Why do our kickers struggle to kick with any distance from inside our 22?
I seriously doubted how we were going to score any points when we were down by 4 and hadn’t been out of our own half for what seemed like a good 30-40 minutes.
I never wish an injury on anyone but the Ginger getting injured was the best thing to happen, it all changed from there. Ratima’s pass is sooo much crisper and faster. All of a sudden we were playing with a bit more space and freedom.
I don’t get the Telea hate on here. He’s not in vintage form, but his work rate is top notch, has the ability to beat defenders and he does some bloody good work cleaning up scrappy ball at the back and staying on his feet until he has support.
I feel we are missing someone up front who can break the line and get us some good go forward ball.
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@fcc said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:
We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.
This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.
No, no, no! I won't have that.
There was the suggestion that Carl Hayman should play 8, the suggestion that Izzy Dagg should play 10 and that Richie McCaw should be dropped, along with very many other idiotic comments.
