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    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    How shit was our lineout. Kind of embarrassing really.

    Seriously it couldn't get any worse

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    How shit was our lineout. Kind of embarrassing really.

    Seriously it couldn't get any worse

    I reckon that Sotutu and Ioane are bloody good lineout options.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    So what do they do Fiji?

    Adjust to playing in 25 degree heat.

    Is it that hot in San Diego atm

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    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    How shit was our lineout. Kind of embarrassing really.

    Seriously it couldn't get any worse

    I reckon that Sotutu and Ioane are bloody good lineout options.

    Move on, you’re just being tiresome

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    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    How shit was our lineout. Kind of embarrassing really.

    People will blame Taylor, but Tuipulotu and Barrett got dominated... need one or the other with a taller lock. Issue is, Lord can't stay fit and Holland is not yet available.

    Darry worth a crack?

    There is a reason they wanted whitelock back, we don’t have that dominant lineout player in NZ currently

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    @fcc said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Has their been a slower pair of wingers ever for the all blacks, pretty sure will jordan is going to walk straight into the side once fit.

    I hope not, Telea already does that.

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    @Chris That's the forecast according to the BBC for next Saturday.

    Surprised it's not going to be warmer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5391811

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    You could argue these days that an out an out fetcher is no longer really needed. All players have the ability for turnovers. Lineouts are a key battle for possession and I would say you need a genuine lineout option in the loose trio more then a fetcher.

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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Great teams find a way to win

    This isn't a great team Mike.
    Far from it.

    Razor thin from it

    England are bloody good and you found a way twice

    You should shit all over OZ and Argentina

    And I wouldn't be surprised if you go 1-1 against SA

    That to me is a great team

    Yeah but you’re Welsh. Who isn’t great compared to your lot 😉 ?

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Chris That's the forecast according to the BBC for next Saturday.

    Surprised it's not going to be warmer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5391811

    Yeah I thought it might be hotter from what I remember being there a couple of years ago.

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    I want to see Ratima- DMac - JB - Proctor - Ioane - Reece + super sub BB
    Sititi 6

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    So what do they do Fiji?

    Adjust to playing in 25 degree heat.

    Is it that hot in San Diego atm

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    If you want a good laugh, go read any of the various player rating articles

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    All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test

    All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test

    Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.

    Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

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    Interesting isn't it. We didn't pick the obvious stand-out #8 in NZ this year in the squad.
    The walk-up starter has been various shades of average the first 2 weeks. In a high profile environment he should be looking over his shoulder. Instead he probably gets the Fiji game off and a guaranteed shirt v South Africa

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    @fcc said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.

    This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.

    Perofeta clearly screwed up, put himself under pressure and used his footwork to get out of it. It had nothing to do with the game plan, it was all skill execution and pressure. Plan A would have been to kick it.

    I used it as an example us playing too much in our 22, and even our own half. Do you disagree we went out to run it?

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    At end of the day we won the series 2-0 vs a very strong English team. The key now is if this coaching group can address the obvious issues with personnel and game plan.

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    So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:

    • An inability to exit.
    • Aimless, uncontested kicking.
    • No way around the rush defence.
    • Our own defence is porous on the edges.
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    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test

    All Blacks player ratings vs England | Steinlager Ultra Low Carb second Test

    Beauden Barrett's electric showing from the back changed the game and powered the All Blacks to 10 points in the final quarter.

    Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

    They got this bit right

    1. Codie Taylor – 3
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    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:

    • An inability to exit.
    • Aimless, uncontested kicking.
    • No way around the rush defence.
    • Our own defence is porous on the edges.

    All we can hope is this coaching group have enough intelligence to admit their failings and actually do something about it.

    I think if anything we have gone backwards from the Schmidt WC style that got us into the final.

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