Highlanders v Crusaders
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@Bovidae said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
Nine kids 22 or under in that 23. While they have only won two games, there is what nine All Blacks in the Crusaders. Massive for the young boys
I was thinking watching the game that there were quite a lot of the 2022 NZ U20 squad across both teams.
Highlanders - Fabian Holland, Oliver Haig, Jake Te Hiwi, Cam Millar, Finn Hurley
Crusaders - George Bell, Jamie Hannah, Noah Hotham, Macca SpringerFrom the Highlanders can add in 2023 U20 player Jack Taylor, as well as JRK, Stoddart (from last year's U20) and Broughton as the youngsters
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@ARHS said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
How stupid not to take the BP kick at the end. Did not deserve the fluke closing try to get it anyway. But Saders still a chance with that BP I feel.
Still a chance because the Drua dropped their game overnight
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I had to say I smiler when I saw Hannah at one stage when Clan were on attack and under goalposts (think just after try scored), he stepped up and gave De Groot a shove, Fabian Holland stepped in front of him like f*** off son (just like it from another youngster playing like a senior player), and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
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@Chris-B Heeeey you are still around 😉
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@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
And it was then I realized he will surely be a future AB great...................
Na mate, I thought that a couple of years back, but the size helps.
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
And it was then I realized he will surely be a future AB great...................
Na mate, I thought that a couple of years back, but the size helps.
He isn't dominant at the lineout.
He isn't dominant in carries.
He's workmanlike around the field.
At this stage, I'd class him as a safe white boy with size who might kick on, nothing more. -
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
And it was then I realized he will surely be a future AB great...................
Na mate, I thought that a couple of years back, but the size helps.
He isn't dominant at the lineout.
He isn't dominant in carries.
He's workmanlike around the field.
At this stage, I'd class him as a safe white boy with size who might kick on, nothing more.At 21 Dan Carter wasn't fantastic off the right foot either.
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@SouthernMann
Right......but pretty fuckin awesome at everything else.As were Retallick and Whitelock.
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@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann
Right......but pretty fuckin awesome at everything else.As were Retallick and Whitelock.
Both of which made their Super Rugby debut at 21. All.Black's later that year too. Holland debuted two years ago. Albeit for the shit Landers. Not eligible for the All Blacks until next year. Hard comparison. The kid is pretty good.
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@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
And it was then I realized he will surely be a future AB great...................
Na mate, I thought that a couple of years back, but the size helps.
He isn't dominant at the lineout.
He isn't dominant in carries.
He's workmanlike around the field.
At this stage, I'd class him as a safe white boy with size who might kick on, nothing more.Ok well we see him different, I saw him winning plenty of ball in lineouts (he usually calling them too), I think he does everything I want a lock to do. Of course he will kick on why I said I can see him becoming a great, not saying he is one now.
Iobviously watch for different things than you, skin colour doesn't even come into any calculation of any player I watch anyway. -
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
And it was then I realized he will surely be a future AB great...................
Na mate, I thought that a couple of years back, but the size helps.
He isn't dominant at the lineout.
He isn't dominant in carries.
He's workmanlike around the field.
At this stage, I'd class him as a safe white boy with size who might kick on, nothing more.At 21 Dan Carter wasn't fantastic off the right foot either.
Bang on mate,Sam Whitelock and Brodie Rettalick all developed as they got test experience etc too. Sam W when he started wasn't the dominant force he became, I don't recall a lock that was when he forst came on scene.
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@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
And it was then I realized he will surely be a future AB great...................
Na mate, I thought that a couple of years back, but the size helps.
He isn't dominant at the lineout.
He isn't dominant in carries.
He's workmanlike around the field.
At this stage, I'd class him as a safe white boy with size who might kick on, nothing more.LOL.
Not dominant at the lineout? This has got to be a piss-take. On the eye test he'd be the safest lineout option Otago/Highlanders have ever had... always clean with a two-handed take.
If that isn't good enough for you, he is seventh for the most lineout takes in the comp, the highest ranking New Zealand player there, despite missing two and a half games due to concussion.
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@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Frank said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
and until then I didn't realise how much bigger Holland was compared to Hannah.
And it was then I realized he will surely be a future AB great...................
Na mate, I thought that a couple of years back, but the size helps.
He isn't dominant at the lineout.
He isn't dominant in carries.
He's workmanlike around the field.
At this stage, I'd class him as a safe white boy with size who might kick on, nothing more.thats just a super weird take.....are you implying he's only got a gig because hes white or something? you haven't described any other physical trait so im assuming thats important in your critique?
