All Blacks 2024
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
And it could be he just does not think the players left in NZ are good enough in some positions.
Robertson knew the policy on overseas players when he took on the job. If he didn't have a good idea of the quality of players left in NZ and available to him, that's no different from any new AB coach.
He's got 4 years and should just get on with what he's paid to do.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
And it could be he just does not think the players left in NZ are good enough in some positions.
Robertson knew the policy on overseas players when he took on the job. If he didn't have a good idea of the quality of players left in NZ and available to him, that's no different from any new AB coach.
He's got 4 years and should just get on with what he's paid to do.
Whitelock might be keen to come home on his own which he has every right too. we only have media speculation that Razor is chasing him.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
It’s astonishing really that we have only have 1 test class lock in NZ currently.
Lord is test class he just needs to stay fit. He was excellent vs Argies in B.A. last year.
The second half of the Bok friendly is my reference point.
Can't see how that's a reference point for anything other than how to make easy money and not destroy your players.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
we only have media speculation that Razor is chasing him.
Which, to be fair, you were justifying. I don't know if Robertson is chasing or considering 35 year old retired locks for his team, but I certainly hope not. It's hardly forward-thinking, nor does it inspire confidence in squad development
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
we only have media speculation that Razor is chasing him.
Which, to be fair, you were justifying. I don't know if Robertson is chasing or considering 35 year old retired locks for his team, but I certainly hope not. It's hardly forward-thinking, nor does it inspire confidence in squad development
Maybe wants a vet to educate a couple of foreign (non-Chch) youngsters?
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I would have thought that was the role of the forwards coaching setup. SW as a mentor, good idea.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I would have thought that was the role of the forwards coaching setup. SW as a mentor, good idea.
Article I saw indicated TWM saw Sam as the lineout guru.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Cullen Grace can both fit that role
Cullen needs to focus on playing well in one position.
I think this is probably true of every player in the All Blacks right now. Moving a player between two different positions should really be an emergency option if injuries arise, it shouldn't be part of 'plan A'.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I would have thought that was the role of the forwards coaching setup. SW as a mentor, good idea.
Hall on the rugby pod suggesting that it is a Razor strategy for getting a voice in the room who he trusts that can provide back room advice and mentoring.
Hall has essentially said that at the end of the day it’s about his relationship with Razor.
In some ways, I think that it’s great that Razor values his experience so much, but it’s also worrying that he doesn’t seem to be confident of developing that culture without a player who has left.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I would have thought that was the role of the forwards coaching setup. SW as a mentor, good idea.
Hall on the rugby pod suggesting that it is a Razor strategy for getting a voice in the room who he trusts that can provide back room advice and mentoring.
If it's true, and he needs to be a player in the squad, what does that say to senior AB's who have committed to the team and forgone the lure of the Euro or Yen?
In some ways, I think that it’s great that Razor values his experience so much, but it’s also worrying that he doesn’t seem to be confident of developing that culture without a player who has left.
If he doesn't know his senior players - Ardie, Cane, Reiko etc - well enough to be confident in them, then he has a bit of a problem I'd suggest.
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He is my preferred lock to partner Barratt. But let’s face it he has only had 2 test matches.
Looked very good in BA though👍
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@Victor-Meldrew but if he comes back and is still one of the top 2 locks we have, why wouldn't you play him...if you are good enough you are old/young enough...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew but if he comes back and is still one of the top 2 locks we have, why wouldn't you play him...if you are good enough you are old/young enough...
If he comes back in 2025 after his 2 year Pau contract, then yeah, that's a possibility. But he'll be pushing 37 by then and I'd like to think we have a Head Coach who want to look to the future and is capable of developing his players and team.
