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  • sparkyS Offline
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    Midi Olympique are reporting that Owen Farrell has signed a 2 year deal with Racing 92 from the summer. Farrell has already made himself unavailable for the 6 Nations and the summer tour.

    So England will need to find a new captain. George Ford should be their main 10.

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    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    Midi Olympique are reporting that Owen Farrell has signed a 2 year deal with Racing 92 from the summer. Farrell has already made himself unavailable for the 6 Nations and the summer tour.

    So England will need to find a new captain. George Ford should be their main 10.

    Racing 92 have come out and said there's no deal, but certainly leaves the doors open for still under negotiation

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    @Machpants Lots of other newspapers are reporting that Owen Farrell is in advanced talks with Racing 92. Midi Olympique jumped the gun by saying that he had already signed with the French club.

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    Ex-England coach Stuart Lancaster is Coach of Racing 92 so it makes a lot of sense, Owen Farrell going there.

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    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    @Machpants Lots of other newspapers are reporting that Owen Farrell is in advanced talks with Racing 92. Midi Olympique jumped the gun by saying that he had already signed with the French club.

    Yup that was my point, they very specifically said there was no deal. Doesn't mean that they're just about to sign him

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    Apparently ladies lions is getting close to a go, for to NZ first. Problem is it will basically be England. Maybe it should morph into NH v SH, Ozzie and SA would get smashed unless there is big improvements, possible I guess.

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    I see the NZ press has picked up on a couple of Telegraph articles about Ethan Roots

    Apparently he's a decent chance of making the England 6N squad?

    Jan 13, 2024

    Combative Ethan Roots could balance England’s pack – and unleash Ben Earl

    Combative Ethan Roots could balance England’s pack – and unleash Ben Earl

    Flanker has impressed at Exeter and could perform the same role for Steve Borthwick as he does for Rob Baxter

    Jan 11, 2024

    Ethan Roots interview: I left cage fighting and jiu-jitsu behind to return to rugby

    Ethan Roots interview: I left cage fighting and jiu-jitsu behind to return to rugby

    Exeter flanker was alienated from rugby as a teen but, after dabbling in MMA and a stint on building sites, is now close to an England call

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    Free access version

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133558291/the-kiwi-former-cage-fighter-and-jiujitsu-champ-in-mix-for-first-england-rugby-cap

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    @Duluth

    I’m not sure how he went at the Ospreys but he’s been good for Exeter, one of those back rows that is just a complete nuisance all over the park. 6 though is a position of strength for England, so there’d be a few ahead of him in the queue.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67995451

    Hope he goes to the Dallas Cowboys

    Then Max Boyce can do another show

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    Fuck me, he's a bit small for that, isn't he? I know zilch about it, but they all look like monsters

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    @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

    Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

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    @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

    @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

    Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

    Cool, as I said I know fuck all apart from buys in helmets smashing together. He's joining the NFL training pipeline/programme, so position TBC I guess

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    @Machpants it's a much more open game than it was even 10 years ago and definitely 20 years ago.

    The rules benefit space and speed on offense so the game is far more tailored to that (and subsequently the players on defence that can defend that).

    The best wide receiver in the league is 178cm tall and 87kg.

    The best rookie wide receiver has similar frame to LRZ (188cm, 93Kg).

    A lot of lessons rugby can take from that - which has gone the opposite way.

    Having said that - it's going to be awfully tough for LRZ - they have designated international roster spots so he can hang around but making a team's official 53 man squad and then staying there for any length of time is an enormous ask. Good luck to him.

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    @Machpants sorry I forgot to add the link to the guy I mentioned 😂

    Justin Jefferson - Wikipedia

    Justin Jefferson - Wikipedia
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    those guys may be the same size, but they have explosive acceleration and high top end speed. They are fucking quick and they get there real fucking fast. And they have other things like big hands and huge verticles.
    And route running is a skill developed over a period of time.

    Good luck to him, i always want guys from teh rugby codes to make it. But the odds are stacked against him.

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    @mariner4life Third largest population on Earth with highest (by some margin) reward for being the best. Their sprinters are technically superb too - one only has to look at the times they set in combine for the 40 yard.

    Once on a trip to America while in the Army we had a "sports day". 4 x ~200m race and we're winning by miles into the last league. Their anchor just missed Olympic selection so joined the Army. I swear it looked like he was 50m behind at the start of his run and won by 30m.

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    High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

    NFL athletes are in their position because they are physically perfect for that one specific aspect of the game. Jack of all trades athletes have no place in that alpha sport.

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    @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

    High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

    NFL athletes are in their position because they are physically perfect for that one specific aspect of the game. Jack of all trades athletes have no place in that alpha sport.

    Agree totally. The other thing against him is that top level NFL they really focus on certain things and as soon as you don't deliver, you're 100% off everybody's radar.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    I think there’s a far bigger play here

    LRZ tries to make the NFL

    Gets on to a team like Wade did, a few highlights in pre-season matches but ultimately fails - gallantly- in his endeavour.

    Signs for Major League Rugby as one of the few overseas players in the league in their prime.

    Becomes poster boy for the league with huge US recognition.

    Has a stormer of a season or two and shows he’s not bad after all.

    Qualifies on residency to represent the US and becomes the poster boy for the 2031 RWC in the US of A

    All the while being filmed by Netflix

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