RWC SF: England v Springboks
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@thelemmning70 so we're back to Curry is a moron. Quelle surprising
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 so we're back to Curry is a moron. Quelle surprising
No.... Think he has just made wrong assumptions. And you know what they say about assumptions.
Did you listen to the clip? What is your opinion.... Especially the afrikaans in it?
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@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
Perfect summary
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
Well, as said above, it needed to be investigated. My take is most likely explanation is Bongi taking Afrikaans and Curry not understanding. If Curry did understand or was shit-stirring however...
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@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@nostrildamus not apparently. There's nothing and no one anywhere claiming the ref heard it, except for you with zero to back it up. That's absurd.
"since the ref apparently also heard it" I said. I'm happy to concede it is not clear the ref meant he heard it or he meant if it happens he'll do something. As he did not seem to talk to the Boks the latter is quite likely. I'm not fussed either way. Not sure why you want to get me to say I claimed it. Anyway forget it, you be you.
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@nostrildamus exactly and there's nothing at all to suggest that the ref apparently heard that, so it's a shithouse accusation to make. You're basically saying the ref heard it (apparently) and let it slide.
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@pakman said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Smuts I was in E12. At the end a couple of Bok fellas were ecstatic with relief. Leaping around like jumping jacks!
Can’t take them out of Pretoria.
The correct response was to finish Swing Low on your own.
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
Because deep down he knows what he is. But then every openside worth our salt rejoice in the same knowledge.
Sidenote: happened to be standing next to his family as he walked to the touchline after the game. He’d obviously given everything he had and more. His first words were: I broke my nose. Looked like he’d met a cement mixer after going the wrong way down a one way street. Guy played a blinder. We lose that game if Bongi hadn’t been the cement mixer.
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
If true, it's getting a little complicated...
Bongi Mbonambi Afrikaans ‘defence’ undermined as new footage is not moment being investigated
Tom Curry’s allegation he was called a ‘white c---’ is understood to have taken place in an off-the-ball incident
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@Victor-Meldrew I take it all back. Curry is smarter than SBW.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
You’re saying curry isn’t capable of gamesmanship?
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@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
You’re saying curry isn’t capable of gamesmanship?
Of course he is capable of it. Is Mbonambi capable of calling Curry a White fluffybunny? Of course he is capable of that. In neither case though does that mean either happened. If you want to consider probability, it is more likely that Bongi called him a White fluffybunny in the heat of the moment than that Curry suddenly decided to make up a story about a racial slur. Just as likely though is Bongi calling out in Afrikaans and Curry mistakenly taking exception to it.
For once WR seem to be taking the right stance. Investigation, consideration, decision.
Likely outcome? Nothing to see here, move on.
The thing that strikes me as funny though is that if Bongi did call him a White fluffybunny, everyone will be up in arms only about the bit that is indisputable. Curry is definitely white, whether he’s a fluffybunny or not is just a matter of opinion.
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@Catogrande if he’d just called him a fluffy bunny (allegedly for @Bones) there would be nothing to see here.
But we’re in a vicious spiral to the bottom in an era of identity politics. So using the colour of someones skin as an adjective when verbally having a pop at someone is a no go zone. Assume pitchforks and torches are waiting if you do.
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@Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
You’re saying curry isn’t capable of gamesmanship?
Of course he is capable of it. Is Mbonambi capable of calling Curry a White fluffybunny? Of course he is capable of that. In neither case though does that mean either happened. If you want to consider probability, it is more likely that Bongi called him a White fluffybunny in the heat of the moment than that Curry suddenly decided to make up a story about a racial slur. Just as likely though is Bongi calling out in Afrikaans and Curry mistakenly taking exception to it.
For once WR seem to be taking the right stance. Investigation, consideration, decision.
Likely outcome? Nothing to see here, move on.
The thing that strikes me as funny though is that if Bongi did call him a White fluffybunny, everyone will be up in arms only about the bit that is indisputable. Curry is definitely white, whether he’s a fluffybunny or not is just a matter of opinion.
The point I'm making is that @Rancid-Schnitzel Is convinced it happened.
I'm just pointing out that he quick to jump to conclusions. Agree with your dialog.
