RWC SF: England v Springboks
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@Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Earl has been very good but not really in a traditional No8 way. He’s been playing a great flanker’s role with an 8 on his back. A bit like Savea from a year or so back.
Earl is like a 7.5. Knows how to disrupt the ball. I suspect the Boks will target him and try and get him stuck at the bottom of the tackle and rucks.
For me the difference is the pace out wide of the Boks. With any space those two wingers can be electric.
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I don’t think we deserve a break, we’ve been abject for a long time. The Boks have built a great structure and have great cattle. We don’t have the player base because we dismantled our youth development and our U20s are shit now. We also have a fucked club structure which means we don’t have the ability to ensure clubs pick props for example. We don’t have the coaching structure, relying on Hail Mary hires, allowing Eddie to piss off every decent coach and swap them every five minutes, taking too long to fire Eddie and appointing a team of coaches with almost no experience or track record, meanwhile our experienced coaches coach elsewhere. On top of that, our players and coaches are pretty hard to warm too - which would be a shame if we were good, is embarrassing when we’re not.
I understand the odd opinion on here that England have a chance this weekend, but to me it suggests those people haven’t been watching closely enough. I don’t know any England fans who genuinely think we have a chance, some with unbelieved bravado, but no more than that.
Now I can’t stand the Boks, don’t like the way they play, don’t like many of the players, despise Rassie. But I have to hand it to them they’ve built a hell of a set up.
I was gutted for France on Sunday, and am not surprised they’ve gone cold, hard to see how they wouldn’t when they genuinely believed this was their best ever chance. My guess is they’ll support Argentina, New Zealand, South Africa, daylight in that order when the time comes. Don’t remember being less excited about an England World Cup game…
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@Dodge yeah, club rugby isn't that appealing at the moment, well for me anyway. The below the sternum tackle thing is going to be difficult to get used to - although I have noticed that it's only refs getting assessed that are hot on it. The other thing being, that for some stupid reason now, they've pushed the "3 subs only" rule waaaaay down the leagues, so can't even do rolling subs (the other day we had to roll out a team of 11 players just so they could get a game, instead of being able to sub on in other matches).
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
I don’t think we deserve a break, we’ve been abject for a long time. The Boks have built a great structure and have great cattle. We don’t have the player base because we dismantled our youth development and our U20s are shit now. We also have a fucked club structure which means we don’t have the ability to ensure clubs pick props for example. We don’t have the coaching structure, relying on Hail Mary hires, allowing Eddie to piss off every decent coach and swap them every five minutes, taking too long to fire Eddie and appointing a team of coaches with almost no experience or track record, meanwhile our experienced coaches coach elsewhere. On top of that, our players and coaches are pretty hard to warm too - which would be a shame if we were good, is embarrassing when we’re not.
I understand the odd opinion on here that England have a chance this weekend, but to me it suggests those people haven’t been watching closely enough. I don’t know any England fans who genuinely think we have a chance, some with unbelieved bravado, but no more than that.
Now I can’t stand the Boks, don’t like the way they play, don’t like many of the players, despise Rassie. But I have to hand it to them they’ve built a hell of a set up.
I was gutted for France on Sunday, and am not surprised they’ve gone cold, hard to see how they wouldn’t when they genuinely believed this was their best ever chance. My guess is they’ll support Argentina, New Zealand, South Africa, daylight in that order when the time comes. Don’t remember being less excited about an England World Cup game…
French don’t like the argies. They really like nz. I’d say NZ > SA > Arg > Eng imo.
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
I understand the odd opinion on here that England have a chance this weekend, but to me it suggests those people haven’t been watching closely enough. I don’t know any England fans who genuinely think we have a chance, some with unbelieved bravado, but no more than that.
Very much like ABs last weekend
Now I can’t stand the Boks, don’t like the way they play, don’t like many of the players, despise Rassie. But I have to hand it to them they’ve built a hell of a set up.
Yeah I certainly don't want Rassie and his bag-o-cheats anywhere near another victory
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Still heaps of tickets category 1 and 2 for resell on official site.
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For a minute there, I thought Walrus was talking about Times Rugby writers
The boorish, antisocial minority who shame England rugby fans
It was nearly midnight in Nice, an hour after the end of the England v Japan pool match, and there was a surge of post-match celebrants moving down the hill fro
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No change for the boks
South Africa team to face England
Damian Willemse; Kurt-Lee Arendse, Jesse Kriel, Damian de Allende, Cheslin Kolbe; Manie Libbok, Cobus Reinach; Steven Kitshoff, Mbongeni Mbonambi, Frans Malherbe; Eben Etzebeth, Franco Mostert; Siya Kolisi (c), Pieter-Steph du Toit, Duane Vermeulen.
Replacements: Deon Fourie, Ox Nche, Vincent Koch, RG Snyman, Kwagga Smith, Faf de Klerk, Handré Pollard, Willie Le Roux -
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@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@junior cripple fight in the cricket then
Aus playing too?
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@Catogrande did they lose to Afghanistan or Netherlands?
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Word is Smith is out (HIA) and Steward is back
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@Catogrande That is true. But it is also not really a shock by the Proteas, who are truly world cricket's Jekyll and Hyde team.
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@MiketheSnow Convenient. Smith was never playing FB.
Steward in at 15, Ford on the bench. Farrell at 10.
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Dobbo: Boks have nothing to fear
John Dobson says he cannot see any way of stopping the Springboks from retaining their status as world champions, backing their scrum to wreak havoc in the final two playoffs.
“I don’t want to sound arrogant, but that’s where we are going to take some stopping in the World Cup,” Dobson said. “England and then New Zealand or Argentina are going to have to produce a second front row that can live with that. I think we will see more of that tactic now from South Africa, if you have a superior scrum then scrum more.
“In the game against Ireland, did New Zealand put the ball into the scrum? It was a remarkable game."
Yes john, NZ did put the ball in. 5 times in fact.
“Look, I don’t think it’s England,” Dobson answered when asked which remaining team South Africans fear most. “I don’t know what you do to stop the South Africans now, with that scrum, maul. It’s tricky.
“Ox Nche, the Springboks’ number 17, is going to be the player of this World Cup. He is just going to do so much damage in these next two games.
“New Zealand is the team we fear most, but can then produce something similar to what they did against Ireland? Can they cope with that second front row? It’s tricky, I think.
“Please don’t think I am an arrogant South African, but it’s ours to lose after Sunday night, I feel.”
Best not lose to England then
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