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    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

    There will only be a meltdown if the ABs lose, draw, or win.

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    @nostrildamus we need OG Redbeard to make a guest appearance to answer all things prop related ๐Ÿ™‚

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @nostrildamus we need OG Redbeard to make a guest appearance to answer all things prop related ๐Ÿ™‚

    He was one of my favourite posters ๐Ÿ™‚

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    looking back to the last time we played Ireland, we are so much better than we were then

    Fullback: J Barrett was okay, B Barrett is frustrating us all. Lets call it even
    Wings: Reece/Jordan v Jordan/Telea. This Jordan is better than the 2022 version that was feeling his way back in. Telea is better than Reece. 2023 wins
    Centre: Ioane/Ioane even
    2nd 5: Havili v JBarrett. A nothing player against a big lump who will get us on the front foot and can throw a dinky little pass. Huge upgrade for 2023
    1st 5: BBarrett v Mo'unga. This was the death throws of BB at 10, and while RM is hardly a world beater, he's significantly better than 2022 BB
    9: Smith/Smith even
    Loose Forwards. Cane/Savea/A Ioane v Cane/Savea/Frizzell 2023 wins this by virtue of Frizzell's current form and the way he plays making the others, particularly Savea, better.
    Locks: Retallick/Whitelock v SBarrett/Retallic (assumed) 2023. Retallick wasn't in great form, SBarrett has grown and grown and now plays with the aggression and accuracy we need
    Props: Bower/Laulala v actually we don't know yet. This could be even though you could argue that Laulala has improved. If Lomax can play then 2023 is ahead
    Hooker: Taylor/Coles v Taylor/ST I give this to 2023 just, as Taylor is playing better, but ST has dropped away a little. It wouldn't shock me to see Coles in the 16 shirt this weekend

    Bench: This is telling
    Coles, Karl T, Ofa, Vaa'i Paps, Fakatava, Mo'unga, RTS v
    Coles/ST, Props, Whitelock, Paps, Roigard, Dmac, ALB
    This is a huge improvement. There is genuine impact and experience there. That 2022 bench is so ordinary.

    Ireland have the same players playing the same way. We lost that game by 10 points, and this AB side is more than 10 points better than June 2022.

    Nice work Mariner.

    Two minor comments:

    2022 Ioane < 2023 Ioane
    2022 Smith > 2023 Smith

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    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
    TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

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    @Bovidae Wayne Barnes in a WC quarter final.... here we go.

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    Not Carley as ref nor Cronan as tmo. That is a blessing. But seems odd and unfair they all English and none from Southern hemisphere.

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    @ARHS I think they work as teams. All NZ for France-SA.

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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
    TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

    Very happy Jonker isn't the TMO.

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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)

    Well, well, well.... the ref's board has a sense of humour...

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    Iโ€™m genuinely happy to have Barnes

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    @NTA redemption awaits ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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    No issue with Barnes. Everyone makes mistakes and sure he would go back and change things if he could... Generally I find him a good ref.

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    As a referee, Barne is very good. I just wish he'd shut up.

    And I absolutely hate his Try Given / Try Awarded bullshit.

    No, the try was scored. Your job isn't to award/give it. It's to point it out.

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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
    TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

    Could be worse.

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    Carley? At least ABs had experience of Barnes against Uruguay. Perhaps it's time for him to right historic RWC quarters wrongs?

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    @Stargazer said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
    TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

    Very happy Jonker isn't the TMO.

    Do Yaapies pronounce Jo as Wa?

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Barnes is not a bad choice for us, thankfully no Jonkers or Dickson.
    Carley with the flag hopefully he doesnโ€™t get involved much.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
    TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

    I thought Barnes was bloody good in the Uruguay game.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    So the top refs are Barnes, peyper, BOk and Raynal. The Georgian is nowhere as far as I can see, not even a touch judge. Iโ€™m a bit surprised.

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