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    @reprobate fair call, i guess the other issue is, you also need your bench player to be able to play extended minutes too in case something happens, and it scares me thinking Christie is that guy

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    @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @mariner4life Yeah - I'd be inclined pick Williams ahead of Newell on the tighthead side, but I can't see it happening.

    I'm prepared to trust that Ryan and Feek know what they're doing.

    Really hope Lomax can play!!!!!!!! He's our best prop.

    if he's "fit" then you have to start him. He's our best prop, but also if he breaks it's better if he's not already been subbed on.

    If your reserve prop gets injured, aren't you allowed to bring your starter back without any penalty?

    If so -you could play Nepo for 40 minutes + 10 - then if Tyrel craps out after 10 minutes you could bring Nepo (actually Ofa - since he's not a statue) back for the last 20, having had a 10 minute rest.

    Can't fucking remember what the rules are. @Stargazer ???

    Ryan wantewd Williams to be a tighthead at the Crusaders and he's only been switched due to injuries. He's better round the track than Newell IMO.

    Law 3 allows what you're suggesting (3.19 and 3.20 are not relevant here):

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    I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

    Such a shame Havili is injured too.

    George Bridge might be in France on standby though ?

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    @Crazy-Horse then he plays the game if his life scoring a 60m solo try to win it!

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    @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

    Literally our best scrummaging loosehead, so if you think he is fine round the park, he is your man.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

    There are just some things you shouldn't say.

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    @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

    Literally our best scrummaging loosehead, so if you think he is fine round the park, he is your man.

    I read a former loosehead prop saying De Groot was our most destructive loosehead in quite some time, so if he knows what he is talking about, that'll do me.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

    There will only be a meltdown if the ABs lose, draw, or win.

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    @nostrildamus we need OG Redbeard to make a guest appearance to answer all things prop related šŸ™‚

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @nostrildamus we need OG Redbeard to make a guest appearance to answer all things prop related šŸ™‚

    He was one of my favourite posters šŸ™‚

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    @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    looking back to the last time we played Ireland, we are so much better than we were then

    Fullback: J Barrett was okay, B Barrett is frustrating us all. Lets call it even
    Wings: Reece/Jordan v Jordan/Telea. This Jordan is better than the 2022 version that was feeling his way back in. Telea is better than Reece. 2023 wins
    Centre: Ioane/Ioane even
    2nd 5: Havili v JBarrett. A nothing player against a big lump who will get us on the front foot and can throw a dinky little pass. Huge upgrade for 2023
    1st 5: BBarrett v Mo'unga. This was the death throws of BB at 10, and while RM is hardly a world beater, he's significantly better than 2022 BB
    9: Smith/Smith even
    Loose Forwards. Cane/Savea/A Ioane v Cane/Savea/Frizzell 2023 wins this by virtue of Frizzell's current form and the way he plays making the others, particularly Savea, better.
    Locks: Retallick/Whitelock v SBarrett/Retallic (assumed) 2023. Retallick wasn't in great form, SBarrett has grown and grown and now plays with the aggression and accuracy we need
    Props: Bower/Laulala v actually we don't know yet. This could be even though you could argue that Laulala has improved. If Lomax can play then 2023 is ahead
    Hooker: Taylor/Coles v Taylor/ST I give this to 2023 just, as Taylor is playing better, but ST has dropped away a little. It wouldn't shock me to see Coles in the 16 shirt this weekend

    Bench: This is telling
    Coles, Karl T, Ofa, Vaa'i Paps, Fakatava, Mo'unga, RTS v
    Coles/ST, Props, Whitelock, Paps, Roigard, Dmac, ALB
    This is a huge improvement. There is genuine impact and experience there. That 2022 bench is so ordinary.

    Ireland have the same players playing the same way. We lost that game by 10 points, and this AB side is more than 10 points better than June 2022.

    Nice work Mariner.

    Two minor comments:

    2022 Ioane < 2023 Ioane
    2022 Smith > 2023 Smith

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    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
    TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

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    @Bovidae Wayne Barnes in a WC quarter final.... here we go.

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    Not Carley as ref nor Cronan as tmo. That is a blessing. But seems odd and unfair they all English and none from Southern hemisphere.

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    @ARHS I think they work as teams. All NZ for France-SA.

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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
    TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

    Very happy Jonker isn't the TMO.

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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)

    Well, well, well.... the ref's board has a sense of humour...

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    I’m genuinely happy to have Barnes

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    @NTA redemption awaits 😬

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