RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay
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Just watched on delay then read the thread. Geez I see a few things differently to many posters but similar to the TV team
Thought LF and Ofa tried to play themselves out of qf 23 tonight. LF was lazy slow and inaccurate but seemed not to get noticed when he played better in midfield in second half. Ofa still looks awkward to me. Gosh I hope Lomax is OK and Newell too. Tamaiti went well.
For me standout mom was Dmac. Can't believe how many times others messed up when he was in a try scoring position. Really don't think Jordan or BB are the answer at 15. It just has to be Dmac. And he was the best 10 on the park as well as 15. Richie seems to slot back too much so Dmac has to be there to compensate.
Not sure why the haters for Luke J. Both he and Cane were close to the ball and effective all day competing against the best Uruguayan.
Roigard can do better and will learn from today but still looks a big threat. ALB did a lot of good work. Others were remarkably quiet.
Looks OK for QF provided Lomax is OK.
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@ARHS said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Just watched on delay then read the thread. Geez I see a few things differently to many posters but similar to the TV team
Thought LF and Ofa tried to play themselves out of qf 23 tonight. LF was lazy slow and inaccurate but seemed not to get noticed when he played better in midfield in second half. Ofa still looks awkward to me. Gosh I hope Lomax is OK and Newell too. Tamaiti went well.
For me standout mom was Dmac. Can't believe how many times others messed up when he was in a try scoring position. Really don't think Jordan or BB are the answer at 15. It just has to be Dmac. And he was the best 10 on the park as well as 15. Richie seems to slot back too much so Dmac has to be there to compensate.
Not sure why the haters for Luke J. Both he and Cane were close to the ball and effective all day competing against the best Uruguayan.
Roigard can do better and will learn from today but still looks a big threat. ALB did a lot of good work. Others were remarkably quiet.
Looks OK for QF provided Lomax is OK.
yeh I agree with you.
made our bed with sticking with BB - no idea what fozzie was thinking there, hoping BB of 2015 would come back at some point.. father time says get farked!Roigard was pretty disrupted but shit his pass is inaccurate
ultraslim Williams looking to move into the backline.. looked awesome wide with ball in hand!
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@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@chimoaus Didn't look too serious. I just read in one of the media articles that taking him off the field was precautionary.
Yeah it crossed my mind that it was more of a 'tactical sub' than an injury given he came on a bit earlier after the injury to Lomax. He may still be on managed time after coming back from injury.
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@WillieTheWaiter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If LF doesn't start next week, he should be on the bench instead of ALB.
pretty unimpressed by him getting skinned on the outside then showing the pace of a president grades prop chasing back and being passed by Whitelock
that was ugly!LF is indeed not the kind of winger who has that explosive speed for the short and sharp runs, but he offers so much more that can't be matched by the other wingers and midfielders. He just has too many upsides to leave him out of the 23 in my opinion.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Steven-Harris said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
The Foster era summed up , awful discipline
It's been shit since 2016/7
Not really. It got bad around the EOYT 2018 and then 2019 was a bit hit and miss. 2020-21 peak poor discipline.
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@ARHS said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Not sure why the haters for Luke J. Both he and Cane were close to the ball and effective all day competing against the best Uruguayan.
I can see why there would be some criticism of Luke’s game tonight. Thought he looked a bit laboured getting to the ruck. I prefer him at 6 (or 7) than 8 because his back of the scrum work has been scratchy for a while.
His second half was a little better.
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@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@WillieTheWaiter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If LF doesn't start next week, he should be on the bench instead of ALB.
pretty unimpressed by him getting skinned on the outside then showing the pace of a president grades prop chasing back and being passed by Whitelock
that was ugly!LF is indeed not the kind of winger who has that explosive speed for the short and sharp runs, but he offers so much more that can't be matched by the other wingers and midfielders. He just has too many upsides to leave him out of the 23 in my opinion.
Agree about what he offers on the wing but he is barely Super level when he lines up at 13. Not sure I would like him playing at centre for any length of time against the big boys.
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@taniwharugby you should. The first quarter from Uruguay is pretty committed
And then we score some cool tries
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@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@WillieTheWaiter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If LF doesn't start next week, he should be on the bench instead of ALB.
pretty unimpressed by him getting skinned on the outside then showing the pace of a president grades prop chasing back and being passed by Whitelock
that was ugly!LF is indeed not the kind of winger who has that explosive speed for the short and sharp runs, but he offers so much more that can't be matched by the other wingers and midfielders. He just has too many upsides to leave him out of the 23 in my opinion.
What would those upsides be?
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@taniwharugby you should. The first quarter from Uruguay is pretty committed
And then we score some cool tries
And big try saving tackles early.
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@antipodean said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@WillieTheWaiter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If LF doesn't start next week, he should be on the bench instead of ALB.
pretty unimpressed by him getting skinned on the outside then showing the pace of a president grades prop chasing back and being passed by Whitelock
that was ugly!LF is indeed not the kind of winger who has that explosive speed for the short and sharp runs, but he offers so much more that can't be matched by the other wingers and midfielders. He just has too many upsides to leave him out of the 23 in my opinion.
What would those upsides be?
He's handy in close to the ruck and wins collisions more often than not. That's about all I can think of. He wouldn't be in my 23.
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@Crazy-Horse said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@antipodean said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@WillieTheWaiter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If LF doesn't start next week, he should be on the bench instead of ALB.
pretty unimpressed by him getting skinned on the outside then showing the pace of a president grades prop chasing back and being passed by Whitelock
that was ugly!LF is indeed not the kind of winger who has that explosive speed for the short and sharp runs, but he offers so much more that can't be matched by the other wingers and midfielders. He just has too many upsides to leave him out of the 23 in my opinion.
What would those upsides be?
He's handy in close to the ruck and wins collisions more often than not. That's about all I can think of. He wouldn't be in my 23.
And he's a great ball carrier who is hard to tackle, very strong, has a huge workrate, he's like a winger and loosie in one. To me that's a great example of a power winger, who happens to be pretty handy in the midfield, too.
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@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@antipodean said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@WillieTheWaiter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
If LF doesn't start next week, he should be on the bench instead of ALB.
pretty unimpressed by him getting skinned on the outside then showing the pace of a president grades prop chasing back and being passed by Whitelock
that was ugly!LF is indeed not the kind of winger who has that explosive speed for the short and sharp runs, but he offers so much more that can't be matched by the other wingers and midfielders. He just has too many upsides to leave him out of the 23 in my opinion.
What would those upsides be?
He's handy in close to the ruck and wins collisions more often than not. That's about all I can think of. He wouldn't be in my 23.
And he's a great ball carrier who is hard to tackle, very strong, has a huge workrate, he's like a winger and loosie in one. To me that's a great example of a power winger, who happens to be pretty handy in the midfield, too.
Like I mentioned earlier, I would be very worried if he ended up playing decent minutes at centre in a big game. He has no distribution and he gets caught out in defence at 13. The Crusaders realised that and stuck with Ennor in the midfield and him on the wing.
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Obviously first minutes, early exchanges etc etc but it is concerning that we always seem to come off 2nd best in this regard. Against teams that can maintain that for a full game then we are in trouble. When that happens not even Dmac or Blackadder can save us.
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