RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy
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@Frank said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Anyone reckon DMac should be the starting 15 ahead of Beauden?
Moody should be the starting 15 ahead of Beaudy, he has fallen so far off the cliff it is not funny. But yes beaudy should not be in the top 23, who replaces him, I dunno - Jordan, DMac, even Havili!
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@His-Bobness said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Stuart Barnes in The Times the day before.
Aged as well as some of the comments about Frizzell being selected for the RC
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@Frank said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Anyone reckon DMac should be the starting 15 ahead of Beauden?
Watched a bit of the game and BB was linking with RMo and Jordy really effectively on attack to unlock defences. Where he's fallen off is stuff like kicking, decisions around kicking and his defence. Too many mistakes which a professional player shouldn't make.
Can see why Foster & Schmidt pick him. Can see why he shouldn't start.
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Well, we couldn't make a bigger statement than that could we? What an absolute hiding, ninety six points!
Of course it was only a poor Italy team, and some areas of concern for us didn't get tested at all, so we can take the result with a grain of salt in the context of the tournament. The biggest plus was getting through the game unscathed really with so many key players returning from injury.
That said, there is no other team in the world that could dismantle Italy like that. This game showed what this team is capable of when things click for them. Yes this is not a vintage AB side, but we have attacking threats across the park, and the last thing the rest of the world wanted was for them to suddenly start running red hot right before the quarters.
Looking forward to another hit out against Uruguay and then I cannot fucking wait for Ireland. Bring. It. On.
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@JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@His-Bobness said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Stuart Barnes in The Times the day before.
Tomorrow he'll write All Blacks' lost aura resulted in Italy's complacency
And how we poach all of our players from the South Sea Islands, like Mo'unga from the tiny island nation of Mairehau, with reference to that time he and that other guy Muliaina killed Brian O'Driscoll.
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@allblackfan2 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
All Blacks v Italy game not appearing on the SMH website at all, not even in their sports section.
Rugby has been erased from Australia…
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Ball in play time is not determined by the referee
It’s determined by the team who are in charge
Last night NZ were very much in charge
If NZ want the ball in play time to be greater then they have to be dominant in the basics
It’s pretty simple really
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Certain Northern Hemisphere scribes we’ve admired so much over the years were getting ready yesterday to bury All Blacks Rugby and shit on its grave.
Our guys gave a performance of genuine passion and intensity. I can imagine lots of very disappointed NH Rugby pundits this morning.
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Good performance, and a fun watch for sure. Still poor exits and too many infuriating 'clever' kicks on attack - and against the better sides we won't get the ball straight back from those errors.
Should put the wind up the potatoes though. They look pretty nerveless and have overcome a fair bit of history already to be fair, but if anything is going to make them a bit edgy about a QF exit that will. -
@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
He's right to, we are the only top team that doesn't push hard on defence, it's so annoying that we still use a defence system from 2015.
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@Machpants ironically our goal line defence is where we use a flat Rush-like defence and we are usually pretty good holding our line, it's when we defend at depth we don't maintain our shape and press up too slow
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Roigard, Savea, JB and DMac are potent fringe runners. We dont have to spin poor ball wide like we have done too much over the last few years. Can attack closer in. SA backline D is brutal.
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To be fair, he has been on the drop Sam Cane bandwagon for over a year
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Ball in play time is not determined by the referee
It’s determined by the team who are in charge
Last night NZ were very much in charge
If NZ want the ball in play time to be greater then they have to be dominant in the basics
It’s pretty simple really
Yes and no.
Doesn't matter how dominant you are, when the opposition prop goes down for the 457th time and the referee allows it, the ball in play time is going to be less even if they stop the clock.
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@Damo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Operation ¼ final now. Not sure how to prepare for Uruguay in a dead rubber.
Play the same team. Build the combinations.
No need to experiment or give anyone else a run at this stage.
Start Roigard - DMac
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
He's right to, we are the only top team that doesn't push hard on defence, it's so annoying that we still use a defence system from 2015.
He's right, but it's hilarious to come up with an analysis on the All Blacks defence on the 2 tries conceded when they scored 14.
It's as ridiculous as taking about the Italian offence.
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Statement game. One that the ABs pull out every now and then.
Italy were OK for the first little bit, then utterly shit the bed. I can't believe how bad their set piece was. They were being shredded on a few missed tackles but also the most basic plays.
Once you let the ABs score 4 tries, things start to get really stupid.
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@Machpants Not sure I’d describe the AB defence as “very passive” though. Your words were more accurate.
And what Mr Kearney didn’t mention is that some of those Ireland players are good ball players because they’re Kiwis who have come through the NZ system.
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Great performance but fuck me why is our defence still so passive. Ireland thrive when they have time and space to implement their intricate attack. Take that away and they become very beatable as SA displayed last week.
We have had 4 years to at least try out a rush system, and we never did. This is a huge black mark against Foster and McLeod.
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@MajorRage said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Ball in play time is not determined by the referee
It’s determined by the team who are in charge
Last night NZ were very much in charge
If NZ want the ball in play time to be greater then they have to be dominant in the basics
It’s pretty simple really
Yes and no.
Doesn't matter how dominant you are, when the opposition prop goes down for the 457th time and the referee allows it, the ball in play time is going to be less even if they stop the clock.
My head can't get round that maths/logic
It's like one of those,
Train A leaves Los Angeles at 8:00 traveling at 100kph, and train B leaves NY at 9:00 traveling at 200kph
Where do they meet?
