RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy
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Oh yes. Jordie is the 12 🖕
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Sir Foz ultimate long game strategist
It's only one game. We've been here before. That said, the shit periods seem to be getting shorter and shorter.
Yep we can play average next game, but let's get another 3 in row afterwards. Managed it once this year (in fact once in foster's entire tenure) can we do it again
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@scribe said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
No way. Jonny is way more insightful. Fitzy is turning into the old Zinny pundit
I've heard Fitzy speak a few times and chatted with him once. He's a mix of PR and insight. But when he starts talking about team dynamics and culture, and how it impacts performance, he's outstanding.
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So we're back to world cup favourites now right?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@scribe said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
No way. Jonny is way more insightful. Fitzy is turning into the old Zinny pundit
I've heard Fitzy speak a few times and chatted with him once. He's a mix of PR and insight. But when he starts talking about team dynamics and culture, and how it impacts performance, he's outstanding.
He was good in the past. I just find him a bit cliched and out of date. Tonight on ITV he was extolling the virtues of Cane who had v little positive impact.
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@scribe said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@scribe said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
No way. Jonny is way more insightful. Fitzy is turning into the old Zinny pundit
I've heard Fitzy speak a few times and chatted with him once. He's a mix of PR and insight. But when he starts talking about team dynamics and culture, and how it impacts performance, he's outstanding.
He was good in the past. I just find him a bit cliched and out of date. Tonight on ITV he was extolling the virtues of Cane who had v little positive impact.
He’s a big fan of All Black hooker Dan Coles though.
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@scribe said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@scribe said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
No way. Jonny is way more insightful. Fitzy is turning into the old Zinny pundit
I've heard Fitzy speak a few times and chatted with him once. He's a mix of PR and insight. But when he starts talking about team dynamics and culture, and how it impacts performance, he's outstanding.
He was good in the past. I just find him a bit cliched and out of date. Tonight on ITV he was extolling the virtues of Cane who had v little positive impact.
Opposed training runs aren't the type of game where Sam's benefits shine.
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@canefan said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
I'm out of the country right now, so only got to see short highlights of the game. Nice to see Roigard and DMac in the bench, who knows what Fozz is thinking, but that has to be the bench moving forward
ALB being in pisspoor form is a bugger, as we need 12 cover, however he has a nice combination with DMac so we may get better out of him too.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Who'd have though six months ago Shannon Frizzell would be key to NZ's RWC progress?
We live in weird times.
I know!!
Me and I’m sure most people thought he was a throwaway selection. Turns out he is the key to our forward pack being able to function.
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Nitpicking but exits are still shit and they won't be able to get out of their 22 so easily against better opposition. Some option-taking wasn't good either. Jordan looked a bit slower than usual.
Paps was really good, I keep an eye on him and he is just a bigger body than Cane so seems to fit the loose trio better I think. BBBR was in fine form as well (the Bad was put back in his name). Apart from the props, I think that should be the starting 15. Ofa and Nepo off the bench though. -
@Darren said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Who'd have though six months ago Shannon Frizzell would be key to NZ's RWC progress?
We live in weird times.
I know!!
Me and I’m sure most people thought he was a throwaway selection. Turns out he is the key to our forward pack being able to function.
I don't know why he turned the corner, but nice to hear he's continuing in the right vein. The guy appears to be born again hard, time to prove it vs the Irish
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Be interesting to see how Italy respond to that demolition, given the steps forward they have made, you don't want them dropping back again.
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Really nice to see some impact from the bench:
Roigard with 56 metres, 2 clean breaks and 2 defenders beaten, 2 try assists
Dmac with 75 metres, 3 clean breaks, 4 defenders beaten, 2 offloads, 1 try
Even ALB had 28 metres, 1 offload and a trySome issues for attention beyond the kicking game, we tackled at 87% with some players having a bad night on the other side of the ball:
Ioane 4 missed tackles (12 made) with 2 turnovers
Beauden Barrett 2 missed tackles (1 made) with 1 turnover
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@MajorRage said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Ireland are still a better rugby team than us.
BUT.
Ireland at their best will never ever beat iItaly like that. Never ever.
We aren’t out of this cup. Not by a long shot.
I think M4L is right in that we are the best downhillers in the world, once we are on top like that, watch out.
The key for me is getting enough territory early to get some points on the board and create scoreboard pressure on Ireland. We can score points quickly so we need a first 20 like we had against SA.
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Haven't read the thread. And am 10 standard drinks down by midday, after watching the match on Stuff's free delayed stream, from a shitty motel room in shitty Palmerston North. LIving the life.
But... the one thing I took out of that game was... fuck we're good if the opposition plays exactly like we'd like them to. No slowing down of the game, no bullshit semi-injuries, etc, etc.
We will cruise to another Wiremu on the sleeve if Ireland, SeffAfrica, France, etc - just choose to do the same. Except........... -
I could tell we weren't playing South Africa because the game wasn't stopping every 5 minutes for a 130kg prop to get "medical attention".
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@Kruse said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Haven't read the thread. And am 10 standard drinks down by midday, after watching the match on Stuff's free delayed stream, from a shitty motel room in shitty Palmerston North. LIving the life.
But... the one thing I took out of that game was... fuck we're good if the opposition plays exactly like we'd like them to. No slowing down of the game, no bullshit semi-injuries, etc, etc.
We will cruise to another Wiremu on the sleeve if Ireland, SeffAfrica, France, etc - just choose to do the same. Except...........Stuff have a free delayed stream?
