Hurricanes v Chiefs
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<p>just saw the footage of TJP kicking cane on the head.. it might cost him a spot in the final next week</p>
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<p>Just when you think TJ is has turned the corner....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/'>http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/</a></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="601797" data-time="1469913048"><p>Demoting or dropping Cruden now without a severe dip in his own form would be very unlike this selection panel.<br> <br>Barrett demands a greater role, but I don't see why it has to be at 10, many of the plays he made could easily be made at fullback. Ben Smith can move to the wing most likely in the most simplest move or centre if issues persist there for something more complicated.<br> <br>If Barrett is the long term starting 10 that would be the best possible thing for McKenzie. Much like how Evans always started with MacDonald or McAlister in the starting side - Barrett will need someone who can manage the position if he goes down in the first 10 minutes - but also provides a genuine option in another position. McKenzie is the only one like that on the horizon. Cruden would be toast.</p></blockquote><br>I would like to see Mckenzie get some game time at 10 , we have seen enough now to know he can play FB ,<br><br>10 is his favourite position , if he can control a game from there , we really have a future player on our hands and one tailor made to play the Barrett role
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Toddy" data-cid="601824" data-time="1469924250">
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<p>Just when you think TJ is has turned the corner....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/'>http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/</a></p>
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<p>Crikey. </p>
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<p>He'll be hoping that the instant concern he shows gets interpreted as "that was a terrible accident".</p> -
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Just when you think TJ is has turned the corner....<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/">http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>I don't think there was much in that - of course in the game I would have been howling at the ref to bin him but Gardiner (my favourite ref) seemed to have left his cards in the changing sheds in the first half.</p>
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<p>very odd incident really, like above you could argue he was about to throw his feet forward to get momentum to get up quickly and realised too late Cane's face was there...</p>
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<p>Either way, doesnt look good though...legit accident or not, this is SANZAR, could have no citing or 6 weeks! </p> -
<p>even though to everyone bar the judiciary, that Kwaiydes was intentional! </p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="601836" data-time="1469925840"><p>Could be argued he was just trying to get up fast..maybe. has it been cited?</p></blockquote>I watched it several times after, Cane cleaned perenara out and it looked to me like he tried to kick out of the tackle, only Cane let him go in the same instant. His instant concern might save him but it looks unflattering the slower you watch it
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="601836" data-time="1469925840"><p>Could be argued he was just trying to get up fast..maybe. has it been cited?</p></blockquote>looks like a pretty minor website. No noises coming from major sites, yet....
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<p>looks like a pretty minor website. No noises coming from major sites, yet....</p>
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<p>Yep, nothing like the Fern of Record</p> -
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<p>Yeah, he could go the Quade Cooper defence</p>
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<p>he was walking through a house and a laptop fell into his hands?</p> -
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Cruden's level has not dropped.<br><br>
But Road Runner Barrett has just shot past him. I don't think it's even debatable that Barrett should start for NZ, and I will consider it a black mark against Hansen if he goes with Cruden. So it then becomes Sopoaga vs Cruden...vs McKenzie for the bench role.<br><br>
Also, Sam Cane, dreadful telegraphed pass.<br><br>
Chiefs need to score first after the break.</p></blockquote>
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Well i will debate<br><br>
Cruden still excellent but Barrett doing the spectacular.<br><br>
I'd still start Cruden.<br><br>
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<p>Shit result for the Chiefs but I could see it coming a mile away, which is why I wasn't that excited for it (though still hoping for a surprise). I'm not sure the Chiefs could've stopped the Canes if they hadn't travelled to and back from SA but I do think it would've been a closer, more intense game. But oh well, that's the way the current, shit draw works, the Chiefs had their chance to secure their own home finals and send the Canes to SA instead but blew it.</p>
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<p>Still not a bad season at all for the Chiefs given the injury list they gathered during it. Positives are that Bird and Harris came back from injury really pushing for AB spots. Seu, Sanders and Boshier were real finds. DMac, Tamanivalu and ALB grew into their roles in their second seasons. Beaver was awesome. And the Chiefs thrashed Wales even without their ABs.</p>
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<p>So go the Canes next week. Sucks we only got one year to mock them for being the only NZ franchise not to win anything though.</p> -
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<p>even though to everyone bar the judiciary, <strike>that</strike> <strong>your</strong> Kwaiydes was intentional! </p>
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<p>Bugger me, which yellow card? Dropping the bloke from Argentina last year (gutless)? Blindsiding and back slamming the back from Uruguay in the World Cup (gutless)? Knocking the ball out of Colin Slade's hands - at the ruck, in front of the referee - stoopid ² (whilst at Toulon, around about the time the owner discovered, and said publicly, he is a flake)? Dangerous tackle on Morne Steyn 6 years ago? Same thing on Berrick Barnes 4 years ago? Or the knee to Sir Richie's face in 2011 (when he was on his back on the ground - inexcusable. BBBT pulled out his knife, fork, pepper shaker and serviette to have him for dinner a millisecond later at which point the brave <span style="font-size:14px;">li'l fella evacuated his bowels, which went unreported).</span></p>
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<p>I also remember seeing him courageously smack Sir Richie around the head (once again while he was sitting on the ground) after a try had been scored against the All Blacks - it might have been in Hong Kong. Neither attack on Sir Richie was yellow carded - should have been because they were deliberate.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">You will find a <span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">representative selection of marvelous trademark try assists from the li'l fella, <strong>your</strong> li'l fella, to amuse you right here – <span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">try assists </span></span></span>offered to blokes wearing red, green, black, dark green ...</span></span></span></p>
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<p>Incidentally I have just discovered the multi millionaire super star, who was too cool to renew his drivers licence a couple of years ago, has been getting about all these years, since age 13 (15 years ago), without an Australian passport. He's a b-r-i-t-e lad!</p>
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<p style="margin-left:40px;">In May 2016, <em>Cooper stated that Cooper</em> had been dumped from the Australian Sevens team for the Olympic Games because he did not hold Australian citizenship. It was revealed that he had been travelling on a New Zealand passport while playing internationally for Australia.</p>
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<p>( <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11635293'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11635293</a> )</p>
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<p>The Australian Sevens coach says he wasn't dropped for this, that it was because "the team had not had enough time to work with the fly-half" - Laptop Cooper lies, no surprise.</p> -
Cooper wouldn't be eligible for an Aussie passport because of the John Howard laws. He would have missed the 2001 cut off migration date by about 6 months.<br><br>
So, yeah, he wouldn't have been eligible for the Olympiad. Because I believe citizenship is an ioc criteria.<br><br>
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<p>Well i will debate<br><br>
Cruden still excellent but Barrett doing the spectacular.<br><br>
I'd still start Cruden.<br><br>
However I am leaning towards Ardie over Cane ...</p>
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<p>I don't think Cruden was excellent. He made two or three handling errors which were unusual from him. Maybe he was too eager to show that he is the incumbent 10 in the AB ?</p>
<p>Anyway, not having the goalkicking responsability may play against him. On the other hand, Barrett's goalkicking (and kicking in general) has improved a lot since the third test against Wales. I guess this is a matter of confidence and his has grown immensily for a few weeks. Barrett's tackling has also improved greatly. He did stop Retallick in his tracks one meter from the goal line, thus saving what appeared a probable try. This was not spectacular but effective.</p>
