Hurricanes v Chiefs
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<p>Demoting or dropping Cruden now without a severe dip in his own form would be very unlike this selection panel.</p>
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<p>Barrett demands a greater role, but I don't see why it has to be at 10, many of the plays he made could easily be made at fullback. Ben Smith can move to the wing most likely in the most simplest move or centre if issues persist there for something more complicated.</p>
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<p>If Barrett is the long term starting 10 that would be the best possible thing for McKenzie. Much like how Evans always started with MacDonald or McAlister in the starting side - Barrett will need someone who can manage the position if he goes down in the first 10 minutes - but also provides a genuine option in another position. McKenzie is the only one like that on the horizon. Cruden would be toast.</p> -
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Yes, but the <span style="color:#282828;"><span style="font-family:helvetica;">lower/eastern/western north island awesomeness don't have </span></span>Nonu who was on fire on 2015 and was one of the rocks on which RWC2015 was created. Conrad I'll admit was past his best but still the calming influence for the 2015 'canes.<br><br>
This year neither is playing either and maybe that compensates for last years slightly off BB and a missing Awesome Savea.</p></blockquote>We didn't play our best in the final last year, and taking nothing away from the Highlanders who deserved to win, despite that if BB had kicked his makeable goals we probably would have won. He's on fire in every way and it's showing, and we are playing with a far greater focus and intensity which Boyd and Plumtree should take some credit for -
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<p>Demoting or dropping Cruden now without a severe dip in his own form would be very unlike this selection panel.</p>
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<p>Barrett demands a greater role, but I don't see why it has to be at 10, many of the plays he made could easily be made at fullback. Ben Smith can move to the wing most likely in the most simplest move or centre if issues persist there for something more complicated.</p>
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<p>If Barrett is the long term starting 10 that would be the best possible thing for McKenzie. Much like how Evans always started with MacDonald or McAlister in the starting side - Barrett will need someone who can manage the position if he goes down in the first 10 minutes - but also provides a genuine option in another position. McKenzie is the only one like that on the horizon. Cruden would be toast.</p>
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<p>Couldn't you also say: "Demoting or dropping Dagg now without a severe dip in his own form would be very unlike this selection panel."</p>
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Good try saving defence by D Mac on TJP on that Savea break out. Coincidentally only a minute after TJP taking D Mav into touch a metre from the Line.<br><br>
But also worth pointing out it was awfully rugby technical instincts by TJP to tuck the ball under his left arm when the only defender is 2 metres off our left shoulder. Savea unmarked on his right, great ball and all tackle. Bombed a try but canes still got a 3 from that position. -
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<p>Yes, but the <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">lower/eastern/western north island awesomeness don't have </span>Nonu who was on fire on 2015 and was one of the rocks on which RWC2015 was created. <strong>Conrad</strong> I'll admit <strong>was past his best</strong> but still the calming influence for the 2015 'canes.</p>
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<p> This year neither is playing either and maybe that compensates for last years slightly off BB and a missing Awesome Savea.</p>
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<p>A bit like it was said Sir Richie and Dan Carter were past their best five years ago, yeah. He ended his career calmly, with composure and guile playing the house down. Cory Jane is out there still, doing much the same thing.</p> -
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<p>just saw the footage of TJP kicking cane on the head.. it might cost him a spot in the final next week</p>
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<p>Just when you think TJ is has turned the corner....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/'>http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/</a></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="601797" data-time="1469913048"><p>Demoting or dropping Cruden now without a severe dip in his own form would be very unlike this selection panel.<br> <br>Barrett demands a greater role, but I don't see why it has to be at 10, many of the plays he made could easily be made at fullback. Ben Smith can move to the wing most likely in the most simplest move or centre if issues persist there for something more complicated.<br> <br>If Barrett is the long term starting 10 that would be the best possible thing for McKenzie. Much like how Evans always started with MacDonald or McAlister in the starting side - Barrett will need someone who can manage the position if he goes down in the first 10 minutes - but also provides a genuine option in another position. McKenzie is the only one like that on the horizon. Cruden would be toast.</p></blockquote><br>I would like to see Mckenzie get some game time at 10 , we have seen enough now to know he can play FB ,<br><br>10 is his favourite position , if he can control a game from there , we really have a future player on our hands and one tailor made to play the Barrett role
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<p>Just when you think TJ is has turned the corner....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/'>http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/</a></p>
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<p>Crikey. </p>
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<p>He'll be hoping that the instant concern he shows gets interpreted as "that was a terrible accident".</p> -
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Just when you think TJ is has turned the corner....<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/">http://www.worldrugbyvids.com/index.php/2016/07/30/tj-perenara-kicks-same-cane/</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>I don't think there was much in that - of course in the game I would have been howling at the ref to bin him but Gardiner (my favourite ref) seemed to have left his cards in the changing sheds in the first half.</p>
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<p>Hopefully he doesn't get a week off for that.</p> -
<p>very odd incident really, like above you could argue he was about to throw his feet forward to get momentum to get up quickly and realised too late Cane's face was there...</p>
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<p>Either way, doesnt look good though...legit accident or not, this is SANZAR, could have no citing or 6 weeks! </p> -
<p>even though to everyone bar the judiciary, that Kwaiydes was intentional! </p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="601836" data-time="1469925840"><p>Could be argued he was just trying to get up fast..maybe. has it been cited?</p></blockquote>I watched it several times after, Cane cleaned perenara out and it looked to me like he tried to kick out of the tackle, only Cane let him go in the same instant. His instant concern might save him but it looks unflattering the slower you watch it
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="601836" data-time="1469925840"><p>Could be argued he was just trying to get up fast..maybe. has it been cited?</p></blockquote>looks like a pretty minor website. No noises coming from major sites, yet....
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<p>looks like a pretty minor website. No noises coming from major sites, yet....</p>
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<p>Yep, nothing like the Fern of Record</p> -
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<p>Yeah, he could go the Quade Cooper defence</p>
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<p>he was walking through a house and a laptop fell into his hands?</p> -
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Cruden's level has not dropped.<br><br>
But Road Runner Barrett has just shot past him. I don't think it's even debatable that Barrett should start for NZ, and I will consider it a black mark against Hansen if he goes with Cruden. So it then becomes Sopoaga vs Cruden...vs McKenzie for the bench role.<br><br>
Also, Sam Cane, dreadful telegraphed pass.<br><br>
Chiefs need to score first after the break.</p></blockquote>
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Well i will debate<br><br>
Cruden still excellent but Barrett doing the spectacular.<br><br>
I'd still start Cruden.<br><br>
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<p>Shit result for the Chiefs but I could see it coming a mile away, which is why I wasn't that excited for it (though still hoping for a surprise). I'm not sure the Chiefs could've stopped the Canes if they hadn't travelled to and back from SA but I do think it would've been a closer, more intense game. But oh well, that's the way the current, shit draw works, the Chiefs had their chance to secure their own home finals and send the Canes to SA instead but blew it.</p>
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<p>Still not a bad season at all for the Chiefs given the injury list they gathered during it. Positives are that Bird and Harris came back from injury really pushing for AB spots. Seu, Sanders and Boshier were real finds. DMac, Tamanivalu and ALB grew into their roles in their second seasons. Beaver was awesome. And the Chiefs thrashed Wales even without their ABs.</p>
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<p>So go the Canes next week. Sucks we only got one year to mock them for being the only NZ franchise not to win anything though.</p>
