All Blacks 2023
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:
If only Beauden Barrett could go
back to the days where he played the game like he was being controlled by someone on playstation, your life would be complete.FIFY....
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
I don't think Ethan B plays like Jane but I do have a concern over
- Lineouts (no tall loosies) and
- EB's propensity to injury.
I really suspect Ryan does not rate Akira.
Ethan B is good in the lineouts.
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Imo blackadder goes straight to the bench. 40 minutes for frizzell then bring on blackadder.
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@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:
Meanwhile, there is a Blackadder shaped hole in the ABs squad incase you didn't know.
Consider that Blackadder shaped hole now filled you cheeky little fucking pup.
Hope he has better luck with injuries.
Seems he got nod as cover for Captain Sam.I’m concerned that the absence of Bok teams from Super Rugby has lulled selectors into thinking jack of all trades loosies can cut it against the big boys.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:
Meanwhile, there is a Blackadder shaped hole in the ABs squad incase you didn't know.
Consider that Blackadder shaped hole now filled you cheeky little fucking pup.
Hope he has better luck with injuries.
Seems he got nod as cover for Captain Sam.I’m concerned that the absence of Bok teams from Super Rugby has lulled selectors into thinking jack of all trades loosies can cut it against the big boys.
And has led some of our loosies to think they are a helluva lot better than they actually are.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:
Meanwhile, there is a Blackadder shaped hole in the ABs squad incase you didn't know.
Consider that Blackadder shaped hole now filled you cheeky little fucking pup.
Hope he has better luck with injuries.
Seems he got nod as cover for Captain Sam.I’m concerned that the absence of Bok teams from Super Rugby has lulled selectors into thinking jack of all trades loosies can cut it against the big boys.
I was thinking this yesterday after the game , effective forwards in super rugby v effective forwards in test match rugby, is the gap widening ?
Is it becoming a bit like effective batsman in limited overs cricket v test cricket ?
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The players are there. The gameplan is not. Simple as that.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:
Fair?
Hard to argue against
It looks like very simular problems and ideas back then to what we see now.
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Perhaps we put too much emphasis on 6 at the lineout? Think of our two recent shit the bed moments in the world cup, playing Scooter at 6 vs England for his lineout ability. Play Vaai for his lineout ability. Both times it backfired, I think maybe the core roles of a 6 should trump the lineout first. That is moving bodies, making metres and just adding some mongrel.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:
Perhaps we put too much emphasis on 6 at the lineout?
Yes for our team and the way they play we do need a more active tackle demon.
Someone mentioned our loosies think they are better at test rugby than they are due to Super. I suspect the problem is more we don't use them as a trio very well. -
I personally think people are way overreacting. Like or loathe Foster, that was a side stripped of five starters.
Even that great 2015 side, consider them playing against that French side on the opening night in front of a baying crowd without Owen Franks, Brodie Retallick (I know he ended up on the bench, but that was injury-enforced and he was hardly use as a result), Jerome Kaine, Richie McCaw and Ma'a Nonu. They might have still won anyway, because they were better, and they were better coached, but I think it is entirely possible the result wouldn't be the one you want.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
I personally think people are way overreacting. Like or loathe Foster, that was a side stripped of five starters.
Even that great 2015 side, consider them playing against that French side on the opening night in front of a baying crowd without Owen Franks, Brodie Retallick (I know he ended up on the bench, but that was injury-enforced and he was hardly use as a result), Jerome Kaine, Richie McCaw and Ma'a Nonu. They might have still won anyway, because they were better, and they were better coached, but I think it is entirely possible the result wouldn't be the one you want.
So you’re saying a quartet of Lomax, Frizell, Cane and J Barrett are remotely comparable to those legends ?
Jeepers creepers.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
I personally think people are way overreacting. Like or loathe Foster, that was a side stripped of five starters.
Even that great 2015 side, consider them playing against that French side on the opening night in front of a baying crowd without Owen Franks, Brodie Retallick (I know he ended up on the bench, but that was injury-enforced and he was hardly use as a result), Jerome Kaine, Richie McCaw and Ma'a Nonu. They might have still won anyway, because they were better, and they were better coached, but I think it is entirely possible the result wouldn't be the one you want.
So you’re saying a quartet of Lomax, Frizell, Cane and J Barrett are remotely comparable to those legends ?
Jeepers creepers.
Key players in key positions who don't have top quality replacements behind them. Stick Lomax, Retallick, Frizell, and Barrett in, and I think you can easily make the argument we win that game. Massively missed Lomax and Frizell in particular.