Grumpy Old Man
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@Machpants said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@chimoaus said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
Rates.
Fuck Rates.
I picked the wrong time to buy a house
My rates are 2k AUD a year, which might sound reasonable, but I am on a rural property with no water or sewerage connection, I get my bins picked up once a fortnight and I have to take them 3km down the road to be picked up. Not sure that is worth 2k but that's the way it goes.
Yeah if only the house prices dropping meant the rates dropped too.
fluffybunnies
They do, get your house revalued and rates are based on that
They kind of don't really, because if your value drops it's likely that all other property values would drop by the same amount.
Rates are calculated by dividing the adopted overall budget by the total valuation and proportioning to individual properties.
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@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@chimoaus said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Machpants said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@chimoaus said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
Rates.
Fuck Rates.
I picked the wrong time to buy a house
My rates are 2k AUD a year, which might sound reasonable, but I am on a rural property with no water or sewerage connection, I get my bins picked up once a fortnight and I have to take them 3km down the road to be picked up. Not sure that is worth 2k but that's the way it goes.
Yeah if only the house prices dropping meant the rates dropped too.
fluffybunnies
They do, get your house revalued and rates are based on that
Funny you should mention it, the other half is looking into it, something about them thinking our place has more rooms than it does.
She must have known I was up in arms on the fern.
Our place is well and truly undervalued so just check what the current valuation is, would hate for them to check and say it’s actually higher.
Yeah I’m ( very clearly ) no expert on this but doesn’t it go on what we paid for it ?
Again, I have my expert looking into it so she’ll sort it either way.
Pretty sure, here at least, Government valuation is on the Land only, not the "improvements".
Also, as a thought, beyond services to your house you also get the benefit of pipes and drains to stop you drowning, roads so you can go places (road cones are not cheap), and then other shit like parks, sports fields, playgrounds, libraries, halls, noise and animal control ...
Look at that. Me being an apologist for local government... haven't worked for a Council (as an employee) for 20 years.
My recollection though is that Councillors hate putting rates up with a passion because of all the shit they get when they do. Gets them voted out.
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@MN5 what you paid has nothing to do with the rating value they use as it's based on the land value and use and takes into account improvements (ie a bare peice of land will have lower rates than one with a shed/house/farm/commercial building that are all rated accordingly)
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@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@chimoaus said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Machpants said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@chimoaus said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
Rates.
Fuck Rates.
I picked the wrong time to buy a house
My rates are 2k AUD a year, which might sound reasonable, but I am on a rural property with no water or sewerage connection, I get my bins picked up once a fortnight and I have to take them 3km down the road to be picked up. Not sure that is worth 2k but that's the way it goes.
Yeah if only the house prices dropping meant the rates dropped too.
fluffybunnies
They do, get your house revalued and rates are based on that
Funny you should mention it, the other half is looking into it, something about them thinking our place has more rooms than it does.
She must have known I was up in arms on the fern.
Our place is well and truly undervalued so just check what the current valuation is, would hate for them to check and say it’s actually higher.
Yeah I’m ( very clearly ) no expert on this but doesn’t it go on what we paid for it ?
Again, I have my expert looking into it so she’ll sort it either way.
My experience in Australia is the land is valued by average for the area. We then had someone from council come around and inspect the property looking at improvements and then decided on a value. They then put the two together and your rates are based on that. Each year the valuation goes up based on the average increase/decrease for the area.
Our valuation is listed on the rated notice, at the moment it is well under market value and I believe this is often the case. To be honest I suggest it would not make a huge difference in your rates if your house is overvalued by say 100,000.
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550sqm block in suburban Sydney - rates are $490/quarter.
Also 12 council cleanups per year which shocked my mate living just across the road in the next Council area. He just moved into the neighbourhood so he'll be booking all that shit he brought with him
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@NTA said in Grumpy Old Man:
550sqm block in suburban Sydney - rates are $490/quarter.
Also 12 council cleanups per year which shocked my mate living just across the road in the next Council area. He just moved into the neighbourhood so he'll be booking all that shit he brought with him
That is very reasonable for the city. I pay more than that and I don't have water or sewerage and bins only picked up once a fortnight and only 2 tip vouchers.
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Drivers who upon noticing that you want to get out from an intersection instead of being nice and speeding up or even just continuing at their normal speed upon noticing your car edging slightly forward slow down and look at you with a look of panic and fear on their face.
They then slooowwwlllyyyy drive past allowing all the traffic behind them to catch up so can't exit the intersection safely.
Perhaps they believe that their look of fear and panic as they drive by at 20km/hr is the only thing keeping them safe from you launching you car at them like a exocet missile??
I can only but congratulate their unwavering loyalty to their own safety while being an inconsiderate asshat.
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@Bones said in Grumpy Old Man:
Fucking cuntwankers buying their scratchy tickets at the customer service desk in the supermarket. Jesus they're tedious fucksticks.
Its not just the supermarket, got stuck at the Post Office once when an old duck came in with all her tickets and wanted more. In fact, I got a little sad seeing just how much lots of old people spend on lotto tickets each week, this woman spent over $100.
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@chimoaus said in Grumpy Old Man:
@NTA said in Grumpy Old Man:
550sqm block in suburban Sydney - rates are $490/quarter.
Also 12 council cleanups per year which shocked my mate living just across the road in the next Council area. He just moved into the neighbourhood so he'll be booking all that shit he brought with him
That is very reasonable for the city. I pay more than that and I don't have water or sewerage and bins only picked up once a fortnight and only 2 tip vouchers.
Reckon that may be a function of population.
More people in a city means costs for shit like roads are spread more. One dwelling per several hundred metres of road, vs., one every 20m in the burbs, or hundreds of dwellings per m for apartments.
Economies of scale.
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@Windows97 said in Grumpy Old Man:
Drivers who upon noticing that you want to get out from an intersection instead of being nice and speeding up or even just continuing at their normal speed upon noticing your car edging slightly forward slow down and look at you with a look of panic and fear on their face.
Different expectations of grumpiness. In the UK, more often than not, a driver will slow down and flash you so you can pull out from the intersection.
I get grumpy when that doesn't happen.
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@booboo said in Grumpy Old Man:
@chimoaus said in Grumpy Old Man:
@NTA said in Grumpy Old Man:
550sqm block in suburban Sydney - rates are $490/quarter.
Also 12 council cleanups per year which shocked my mate living just across the road in the next Council area. He just moved into the neighbourhood so he'll be booking all that shit he brought with him
That is very reasonable for the city. I pay more than that and I don't have water or sewerage and bins only picked up once a fortnight and only 2 tip vouchers.
Reckon that may be a function of population.
More people in a city means costs for shit like roads are spread more. One dwelling per several hundred metres of road, vs., one every 20m in the burbs, or hundreds of dwellings per m for apartments.
Economies of scale.
Wellington must have some fucken expensive roads then. 😀
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@Victor-Meldrew don't come back to NZ, drivers here are by and large fluffybunnies
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@taniwharugby said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Victor-Meldrew don't come back to NZ, drivers here are by and large fluffybunnies
But ask anyone. They’re all perfect drivers, it’s everyone else’s fault.
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@taniwharugby said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Victor-Meldrew don't come back to NZ, drivers here are by and large fluffybunnies
Yep, I recall they were generally dickheads -I grew up driving in Wellington. Trust me, driving in Rome was a fucking doddle after that
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@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@taniwharugby said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Victor-Meldrew don't come back to NZ, drivers here are by and large fluffybunnies
But ask anyone. They’re all perfect drivers, it’s everyone else’s fault.
Which is obviously bollocks. Except in my case
