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    One positive for both teams was no cards

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    @TheMojoman It was great selections from him. Great to find out about unproven players in a dead rubber.

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    It is funny how things look different when you are at the game... thought McKenzie was shocking but Christie quite good. Mo'unga changed the game when he came on for mine... Smith sharp, but as I say, felt Christie was actually quite good. Finau was rubbish in the first half, but really grew into it.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Mattasaurus huh, go figure. I thought he was a shining light - but I was crediting him with probably half of the things that Nisbo said Savea did.

    Fair call mate 🙂

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    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Richie’s

    I'd have been more than happy for DMac to stay out and right the ship with Smith at halfback.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    but Christie quite good

    Baffling.

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    @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Bones I’d be having a quiet word with Perofeta too if I was Fozzie…

    I'm not going to judge a ten outside that abysmal halfback performance.

    I would've said Jordan is a really good wing and an average fullback, Faingaanuku doesn't offer anything more than Clarke so can go bye - but again tough to judge when the halfback takes so long to distribute, if he even makes it to the breakdown.

    Couldn't disagree more regarding Faingaanuku .... unless you want him to make a break and full over a bit more?

    Fainga’anuku and Clarke should both make the squad if we’re taking a 4 wingers with Jordan and Telea the other two. Unless they drop one of the power wingers to accomodate someone like Stevenson?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    but Christie quite good

    Baffling.

    I'm no Christie fan, but my gut feel was that his defence was really strong, and his passing was good. He has sort of fallen into the Cane camp, where people struggle to acknowledge the good things he does... I still wouldn't have him in my WC squad, but he was not the worst part of that halves pairing, not by a longshot.

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    It was noticeable that Christie's clearance was quicker at the start of the 2nd half (a HT chat?), but he was a handbrake in the 1st half.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    his defence was really strong

    I think most people acknowledge this.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    He has sort of fallen into the Cane camp, where people struggle to acknowledge the good things he does

    Classic, but no.

    His defence was good, in the period where Aussie were making yards at will around the fringes?

    His passing was decent, that's fair. But his distribution was yuuuuuck. Poor options, taken about 3 seconds too late after he finally makes a decision - and that's after he's taken a couple of seconds too long to even get to the breakdown if he does.

    He was by far the worst part of the halves pairing, because he's at the root of it.

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Samisoni gone from no1 hooker last year to number 3 this year

    He played huge minutes for the Chiefs. Wonder if we are seeing the effects of that now.

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    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Bones I’d be having a quiet word with Perofeta too if I was Fozzie…

    I'm not going to judge a ten outside that abysmal halfback performance.

    I would've said Jordan is a really good wing and an average fullback, Faingaanuku doesn't offer anything more than Clarke so can go bye - but again tough to judge when the halfback takes so long to distribute, if he even makes it to the breakdown.

    Couldn't disagree more regarding Faingaanuku .... unless you want him to make a break and full over a bit more?

    Fainga’anuku and Clarke should both make the squad if we’re taking a 4 wingers with Jordan and Telea the other two. Unless they drop one of the power wingers to accomodate someone like Stevenson?

    I'd be tempted to take McLeod over one of them. Thought he had a good go at imitating Jordie tonight.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Bones I’d be having a quiet word with Perofeta too if I was Fozzie…

    I'm not going to judge a ten outside that abysmal halfback performance.

    I would've said Jordan is a really good wing and an average fullback, Faingaanuku doesn't offer anything more than Clarke so can go bye - but again tough to judge when the halfback takes so long to distribute, if he even makes it to the breakdown.

    Couldn't disagree more regarding Faingaanuku .... unless you want him to make a break and full over a bit more?

    Fainga’anuku and Clarke should both make the squad if we’re taking a 4 wingers with Jordan and Telea the other two. Unless they drop one of the power wingers to accomodate someone like Stevenson?

    I'd be tempted to take McLeod over one of them. Thought he had a good go at imitating Jordie tonight.

    Agreed. Was very impressed by McLeod for a debut. Direct, accurate, good decisions, raw boned.

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    @frugby his defence has never been an issue.

    Its speed of clearance and decision making where he struggles, and this in combo with Dmac who was struggling, made for a very poor 40 mins.

    Most of the team came out better after whatever rocket Fozzie gave them at half time.

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    I thought McKenzie was our worst player by a mile. His in-play kicking and decision making was the worst part of what we were doing.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    raw boned

    Snot everywhere

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    Hospital pass for Razor next year without Smith, Whitelock, Retallick, you would have to say. As to Christie, the question has to be asked again. What do they see in him?

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Its speed of clearance and decision making

    The first period of play when Smith came on made it the most evident. Was just bang bang bang. Smith was at every breakdown before it even happened and just feeding players. Those 2-3 seconds are huge when you're trying to hit lines or runners

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    @JayCee said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Not one of ST's finest games, lineout throwing was wonky and was quiet around the field. Don't remember any dominate pick and goes from him.

    He doesn't seem as physically dynamic and impactful as he did earlier in his career, perhaps he is being worked out better by the opposition?

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