Ashes 2023
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"Ground Control to @MajorPom,
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Yeah, rain is a part of cricket unfortunately.
England were a little underdone coming into this series as opposed to Aus who had just come off winning the WTC.
The momentum has swung hugely to England and I expect them to continue on that curve at the Oval test.
Fast bowling is incredibly demanding - I think they have been unlucky to have a cluster of injuries at the same time - archer looks permanently crocked though tbh
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Yeah demanding for sure. It's just that our guys seem to be injured more often than not and for longer periods. I think back to Lillee, Khan, Akram, Holding, Marshall, Johnson and they seemed to have charmed lives compared to our somewhat thinner resources. maybe it just seems that way as we have fewer options?
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@MiketheSnow said in Ashes 2023:
Cricket is so far up it’s own arse
Lunch ffs
Get fed now and as soon as we can play
WE PLAY
ECB wondering why the decline in cricket
It’s sport not Come Dine With Me ffs
Not sure I follow your argument here.
If play was possible in the next 40 mins, they wouldn't have taken lunch. They say they are taking it to remove it off the agenda for the day and make more play more likely.
ECB has lots of questions to ask/answer now although perhaps more in synch with the MCC and global unions. Really hotly anticipated series. WTC Australia vs and England team riding a wave of success. Hugely marketable Ashes with a colossal interest.
And it's over because of the rain.
From a sporting perspective, I've been very clear that England only have themselves blame. But from a future of sport perspective, questions do need to be answered about how to deal with the rain. Spare days etc ... My 11 year old son can't understand why it's all over without playing. He simply doesn't get why so much hype can suddenly be done without a real result.
Will that affect his interest in the next series? Honestly don't know. But it's something to think about for the authorities IMHO.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Ashes 2023:
"Ground Control to @MajorPom,
restore your name, the Urn is gone...Probably the best of all the jokes around this right here.
Moniker stays til the series is complete.
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Congratulations Australia on retaining the Ashes.
England had lots of chances to win at Egbaston and to some extent at Lords and yesterday too. You don’t win a Test without taking 20 wickets and England have only done that once in four Tests in this series.
They knew about the possibility of rain in Manchester and they knew from the start of this Test that weather forecasts suggested terrible rain for weekend.
This is not a vintage Australian team in terms of talent and technique but they are dogged and tenacious, hanging on in there at both Edgbaston and Old Trafford to get the results they needed. Credit to them. Winning ugly is still ugly.
How to avoid this situation again:
- Make Ashes series in England 6 or even 7 Tests long.
- Have reserve days for the final two Tests of a series.
- Fine sides for slow over rates and award runs to the opposition for very slow over rates.
- If washouts are forecast for Day 4 and Day 5 of a Test ( as was the case here), then allow for an extra session with floodlight if need be on Days 1, 2 and 3.
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What should have been the sporting story of the Summer is now a damp squib
Pun intended
So disappointing
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Not quite sure what Cummins could have said that was any better really. He didn't make it rain for God's sake.
Anyway, congrats on retaining the urn Ocker
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@Catogrande said in Ashes 2023:
Not quite sure what Cummins could have said that was any better really. He didn't make it rain for God's sake.
Anyway, congrats on retaining the urn Ocker
Yeah they did genuinely win the first two tests, whatever “moral” victory England might have claimed.
I never mind the rain too much, it’s relaxing when I sleep……but it fucks me off to no end when it ruins cricket.
I think cricket could do a bit better in terms of scheduling reserve days for situations like this. Australia have retained the Ashes but there will always be a massive asterisk next to this series.
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Yes. There's a formula to decide who wins a game of cricket. Something to do with runs and wickets. It is a tried and tested method.
This whole moral victory rubbish has really been carried on by the lower end of the Aus media, following on from some pretty innocuous comments by a couple of the England players immediately following the first two close losses. If anyone is banging on about it, it isn't our boys.
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@Catogrande said in Ashes 2023:
Yes. There's a formula to decide who wins a game of cricket. Something to do with runs and wickets. It is a tried and tested method.
This whole moral victory rubbish has really been carried only the lower end of the Aus media, following on from some pretty innocuous comments by a couple of the England players immediately following the first two close losses. If anyone is banging on about it, it isn't our boys.
Regardless of what was said it was very probable ( but not a given ) that England had this test in the bag but if Marsh and Green survived long enough for a draw I’d happily laud them for it.
If someone survives and has a mammoth innings to ensure a draw I’m all for that, it’s when weather intervenes that I get annoyed.
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@MN5 said in Ashes 2023:
@Catogrande said in Ashes 2023:
Yes. There's a formula to decide who wins a game of cricket. Something to do with runs and wickets. It is a tried and tested method.
This whole moral victory rubbish has really been carried only the lower end of the Aus media, following on from some pretty innocuous comments by a couple of the England players immediately following the first two close losses. If anyone is banging on about it, it isn't our boys.
Regardless of what was said it was very probable ( but not a given ) that England had this test in the bag but if Marsh and Green survived long enough for a draw I’d happily laud them for it.
If someone survives and has a mammoth innings to ensure a draw I’m all for that, it’s when weather intervenes that I get annoyed.
Absolutely, such stuff is what test cricket is all about.
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I said it at the time - and posted on this thread - and my mates shot me down citing the old adage
Bat once, bat big
We should have declared at lunch on Day 3
Had the lead, had momentum, had time to bowl Australia out
