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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @Donsteppa said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    From Stuff:

    Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews has told a press conference the cost of the Games had ballooned out from A$2.6 billion to at least A$6b (NZ$6.5b).

    “We have informed Commonwealth Games authorities of our decision to seek to terminate the contract and to not conduct, not host the games,” he told reporters today.

    “I cannot stand here and say to you that I have any confidence that even the A$7 billion number would appropriately and adequately fund these games.”

    He said it was "not a hard decision", simply saying more than A$6 billion was too much, "we're not doing that".

    Sounds like the costings were based on random number generators. Construction costs have inflated, but not by that much...

    Looks like typical government costing to me. Completely in fantasy land developed by people without a clue for people who want to tell lies to the public.

    FWIW I don't know why they need new facilities for any of it.

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    @antipodean costings based on 2010 figures by the sound of it…

    The whole “take it to the regions” was embarrassingly dumb.

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    If only they had a ministerial position for head of commonwealth games delivery this all could have been avoided - oh wait!!

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    could the Goldie put their hand up to take it? They did a great job last time, we went to a bunch of stuff - the outdoor evening swimming was a highlight. Presume they still have sufficient infra to get 80% of the way there?

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    @voodoo said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    could the Goldie put their hand up to take it? They did a great job last time, we went to a bunch of stuff - the outdoor evening swimming was a highlight. Presume they still have sufficient infra to get 80% of the way there?

    All I know is that these fůcking things are still there.Screenshot_20230718_145011_Chrome.jpg

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    @mariner4life said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    good. The comm games are dogshit anyway.

    Qld should fuck the olympics off as well

    You know I would like to ardue mariner, but I agree, especially about Comm games, and anyone who hold Olympics, should say we will have them , but not paying exorbitant amounts for all the bullshit at opening and closing ceremonies, as well as let everyone do their events without all the extras. And cut down on events, how many different swimming or every version of other sports? Running, 100m,400m, 1500 and marathon is plenty. Gymnastics etc f*** off, golf , sailing etc?

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    @voodoo said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    could the Goldie put their hand up to take it? They did a great job last time, we went to a bunch of stuff - the outdoor evening swimming was a highlight. Presume they still have sufficient infra to get 80% of the way there?

    All I know is that these fůcking things are still there.Screenshot_20230718_145011_Chrome.jpg

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    Geez are they?? I couldn't get over how stupid they were, I drove past them everyday and could never read them, you had to be driving on another road!
    And then all the keep off the roads , we won't be able to handle the traffic? Utter BS it all was!

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    @Dan54 said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    @voodoo said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    could the Goldie put their hand up to take it? They did a great job last time, we went to a bunch of stuff - the outdoor evening swimming was a highlight. Presume they still have sufficient infra to get 80% of the way there?

    All I know is that these fůcking things are still there.Screenshot_20230718_145011_Chrome.jpg

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    Geez are they?? I couldn't get over how stupid they were, I drove past them everyday and could never read them, you had to be driving on another road!
    And then all the keep off the roads , we won't be able to handle the traffic? Utter BS it all was!

    bloody councils, all the same

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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    I like the Commonwealth Games. I also like being around when they are hosted.

    Zero chance of the first games of King Charles’ reign not happening so it will be interesting to see where these end up.

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    @Dan54 said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    @voodoo said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    could the Goldie put their hand up to take it? They did a great job last time, we went to a bunch of stuff - the outdoor evening swimming was a highlight. Presume they still have sufficient infra to get 80% of the way there?

    All I know is that these fůcking things are still there.Screenshot_20230718_145011_Chrome.jpg

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    Geez are they?? I couldn't get over how stupid they were, I drove past them everyday and could never read them, you had to be driving on another road!
    And then all the keep off the roads , we won't be able to handle the traffic? Utter BS it all was!

    They were certainly there when I drove past on Saturday. Seems there must have been an outcry about the cost of removal. Pretty certain there would have been an outcry about them being built in the first place if people had actually been informed about it.

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    If the Commonwealth Games survive this, I wonder if they might end up in a permanent venue in the UK. Or perhaps revolving around 2 - 4 cities every four years so that big upgrades aren't always required.

    Am in two minds about what it might mean for Victoria bidding for any future global events. On one hand maybe it is 'just' the Commonwealth Games and no-one looks too closely in the future. On the other hand, if they ever pitch for anything major (other than the major stuff they already have), I suspect the event owners may be checking their out clauses much more closely...

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Until KL in 98 I think the only time it was held outside of the UK, Aus, NZ or Canada was Kingston in 66. So generally it's always been in England or the "dominions".

    Probably true:

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @Rapido said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    @Donsteppa said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    Probably an unpopular opinion, but I like the Commonwealth Games.

    We can likely pick massive holes in anything below the Olympics, World Cups, or Grand Slams and Tour de France etc, but the next tier is still a lot of fun.

    Same. It is madness for NZers (who don't have the equivalent/alternatives of Euro Champs or Asian Games etc) to dog on the Comm Games.

    I can understand Brits etc not being too fussed, and Aussies have gotten 'too good' for it. But we (our athletes and our bi-ennial spotlight sporting codes) desperately need it.

    This Brit loves it, because Wales gets to compete in its own right

    Plus there are sports in the Comms which aren't in the Olympics

    e.g. Squash
    Last men's final, NZ v Wales

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    Until KL in 98 I think the only time it was held outside of the UK, Aus, NZ or Canada was Kingston in 66. So generally it's always been in England or the "dominions".

    Probably true:

    Screenshot_20230718_163733_Chrome.jpg

    Always strikes me that it's fucking madness not to get the previous host involved in the planning process

    They have literally just done it and can give REAL WORLD advice and 'learnings'

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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    I suspect Sunak will find some ‘levelling-up’ money to host these in the NW or NE of England. Local mayors will jump at the chance too.

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    @sparky said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    I suspect Sunak will find some ‘levelling-up’ money to host these in the NW or NE of England. Local mayors will jump at the chance too.

    Excellent. The XXIII Commonwealth Games in Hartlepool will see a massive upgrade to the 7k capacity of the Vic.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Comm Games gooorn?:

    Until KL in 98 I think the only time it was held outside of the UK, Aus, NZ or Canada was Kingston in 66. So generally it's always been in England or the "dominions".

    Probably true:

    Screenshot_20230718_163733_Chrome.jpg

    As amusing as that is, I get the feeling they realised they wouldn't have the infrastructure ready in time.

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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    West Midland Mayor, Andy Street, ruling out Birmingham as host again but endorsing the idea of them going to another UK region which I think will happen. Newcastle/Sunderland makes most sense and would be cheap to organise.

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    I like the idea of it being held in the UK or capital cities of the larger commonwealth countries.

    So Auckland, Sydney, Joburg. All great options.

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    If the stupid fuckers in charge go down the reparations route then ploughing the money into a Caribbean or African hosted Games would be a far better use of money than just cutting cheques

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